China's numbers are way more believable than ours.

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On 3/22/2020 4:09 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
Tyson,

I wondered the exact same thing about China, I don't trust any of the information coming out of there. I do believe the numbers coming out of Italy right now which keep getting higher and higher daily.


On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 6:01 PM Tyson Burris <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:

Am I the only scratching my head a bit over China’s sudden (or perhaps unreported) lack of infection?  How are some of these countries with such large populations nearly unaffected in some cases. (India as an example) 

 

I am not one to buy into outlandish ideas but its becoming curious to me.

I do understand China has no regard for civil liberties and human rights so their lockdown in Wuhan as Marshall Law was effective.  Yet, if it was so good to protect other cities of China, how did this virus so easily escape to outside the country.  Why are some of China’s perhaps favored countries less prone? 

 

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Within 10 days, over 1,000 Philadelphians lay dead, with another 200,000 estimated ill, and the state government in Harrisburg ordered the city’s public amusements and gathering places closed down, a ban that shuttered saloons, theaters, ice cream parlors and movie theaters. It was too little, too late: As the body count continued to climb, the Catholic archbishop assigned three thousand nuns and seminarians to staff makeshift hospitals and dig mass graves. By March 1919, when the threat of influenza lifted, Philadelphia had lost over 15,000 of its citizens.

 

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Yeah, that old Woodrow Wilson was quite a fascist...

 

News from 102 years ago:

 

The failure of Philadelphia’s government to respond quickly and forcefully should have alerted other elected officials to the crisis. In some cases, it did, as in San Diego, where city officials took heed of the carnage that had overrun eastern cities like Philadelphia, Boston and New York and acted quickly to close churches, dance halls, gymnasiums, libraries, swimming pools and all public meetings—except, of course, outside war bond drives. Police enforced these measures aggressively. When the number of infected citizens did not immediately drop, municipal officials worked with the Red Cross to produce and distribute thousands of gauze masks, which many citizens balked at wearing, despite the entreaties of public health officials. The San Diego Union dismissed the very idea out of hand, observing that “modern civilization has abolished the mask as part of the human wearing apparel … only highwaymen, burglars, and hold-up men wear masks professionally.” Still, the city’s early and active efforts contributed to smaller mortality numbers than other municipalities.

Philadelphia had something 1000 dead the first week.  City fathers were assuring people this is nothing more than the regular flu...

 

Things have not changed much.

 

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On 3/22/20 1:02 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

> Someone just asked Governor Pritzker during his daily press conference

> about letters like these and he said emphatically no, you do not need

> them, nobody in law enforcement is going to ask for papers.

>

 

 

But I was clearly told on facebook that only a fascist and/or socialist

police state would order a quarantine.

 

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