this is actually legit, its a tool i ordered back in january, shipped from
wuhan, but got caught in the first quarantine

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 8:24 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I bet cicely is a Nigerian*.
>
> *Nigerian conspiracy claim is made with no evidence.
> On 3/23/2020 9:20 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> I got this this morning from China
>
>
> cic...@sunmoon.work <cic...@sunmoon.work>
> 3:29 AM (4 hours ago)
>
> to me
> Hi dear,
> I am Cicely from the samotoy store but i am so sorry to tell you that your
> order now is trapped in the Customs by the bad virus throughout the world
> ,so could we resend another one to you?
> We would like to resend the item with 2 face mask together to show our
> apology.
> Please let me know if i can resend the item for you.
> Looking forward to receiving your reply.
>
>
>
> Ummm, no, I dont think i want those death masks
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 8:07 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty sick of the conspiracy theories at this point.  The only
>> "evidence" anyone has pointed me at so far is nut-case bloggers.  You're
>> implying that the quarantine could have been perfect except they
>> intentionally let some people out who were destined to specific
>> countries.  That's not realistic.
>>
>> Quarantines always leak and the leak gets bigger over time.  You let
>> somebody out because they're important or necessary to have outside the
>> quarantine, then they want to get their family and friends out, so they
>> pull strings or sneak them out.  That's the early leaks.  Nobody
>> realistically encircles the whole province, so it's only effective until
>> people decide not to stay anymore. That's where the leak gets bigger.  A
>> quarantine is a best effort.  It's also understood that bureaucrats in
>> China are not adverse to taking bribes (I'm sure some of ours do too).
>> "Closing a border" is only going to work when people actually are
>> willing to comply with the order not to cross.
>>
>> So to think a quarantine in Wuhan was going to be perfect except for
>> when they wanted it to be is not realistic.  As a parallel incident,
>> even the actual fascist gestapo couldn't keep all the Jews in Germany.
>>
>> You haven't gone as far as to claim that the Chinese created the virus,
>> but in case you were wondering: actual subject matter experts have been
>> quite clear that this is a natural mutation of an existing virus.  How
>> they know that is beyond my ken, but I'm more inclined to believe them
>> than to believe randos on the Internet.
>>
>> There's nobody to blame for this.  The Chinese didn't create the virus
>> in a lab.  The Chinese didn't attack us with a virus.  Until you see
>> some credible evidence to the contrary I would appreciate not hearing
>> more about it.  It might give you a direction in which to channel your
>> frustrations, but it adds nothing useful to the discussion and provides
>> no solutions.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>> On 3/22/2020 6:00 PM, Tyson Burris wrote:
>> > I do understand China has no regard for civil liberties and human
>> > rights so their lockdown in Wuhan as Marshall Law was effective. Yet,
>> > if it was so good to protect other cities of China, how did this virus
>> > so easily escape to outside the country.  Why are some of China’s
>> > perhaps favored countries less prone?
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