its pretty simple. A death occurred as a result of the commission of the crime. had the crime not been committed, the specific death would never have occurred. I like motivators not to do crime
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:34 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > The only way I could understand that is if one burglar coerced the other > into the dangerous situation. Otherwise I feel like they are each > responsible for their own actions. I don't understand how our courts > could justify this policy. > > > On 5/11/2020 11:15 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: > > Yep. In a lot of states if your criminal accomplice is killed in the > > commission of a crime the surviving criminal can be charged with murder. > > > > Adam Moffett wrote: > >> So one burglar is charged with murdering the second burglar who was > >> shot by the homeowner? Am I following that correctly? > >> > >> That doesn't seem logical. > >> > >> > >> On 5/11/2020 10:53 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > >>> Im going to go out on a limb and say these plants probably do not > >>> use E Verify. We have a case going where two kids broke in to rob a > >>> house, homeowner shot and killed one of them, the one that didnt die > >>> is charged with murder because a death occurred during the > >>> commission of a crime. So say these plant are committing the crime > >>> of hiring undocumented, and a death occurred, then maybe the company > >>> leadership could be held criminally liable. would be interesting to see > >>> > >>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 9:39 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com > >>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Some people have suggested the spread at meat packing plants > >>> (which are disinfected daily in the normal course of business) may > >>> actually be occurring outside the plants, due to things like > >>> communal housing. This is a claim rife with social, economic and > >>> racial prejudice. Yet I think it has merit. Which probably means > >>> I’m prejudiced. > >>> > >>> I would like to think the companies are implementing major changes > >>> in changing areas, bathrooms, lunchrooms, entrances and exits, > >>> etc, not just distancing on the production lines. But I would > >>> also like to hear that the companies or towns or states or > >>> somebody is setting up places for infected workers to isolate > >>> rather than just go home and infect their families and neighbors. > >>> Or maybe setup some kind of temporary housing to cut the spread > >>> outside the plants. > >>> > >>> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com > >>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *James Howard > >>> *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2020 9:08 AM > >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com > >>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability > >>> > >>> In case people didn’t read the article, Benjamin is the fellow who > >>> died. He was the union Chief Steward……. > >>> > >>> Another point that occurred to me is that everybody just seems to > >>> assume that he contracted COVID at work. What if he got it > >>> somewhere else and he was the one that brought it to that plant > >>> and spread it? > >>> > >>> *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark > >>> Radabaugh > >>> *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2020 6:34 AM > >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com > >>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability > >>> > >>> Seems like they employees should be suing the union, after all > >>> that was who they were paying dues to to protect them in the > >>> workplace. Apparentl the union did a pretty crappy job. > >>> > >>> Mark > >>> > >>> On May 10, 2020, at 11:17 PM, James Howard <ja...@litewire.net > >>> <mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Benjamin was Chief Steward of Local 1776, a chapter of the > >>> United Food and Commercial Workers Union. > >>> > >>> *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken > >>> Hohhof > >>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 10:05 PM > >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com > >>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability > >>> > >>> A 70 year old was working at a slaughterhouse? > >>> > >>> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com > >>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes > >>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:50 PM > >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com > >>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability > >>> > >>> And so it begins. > >>> > >>> > https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/coronavirus-jbs-meat-plant-pennsylvania-death-lawsuit > >>> > >>> > >>> On May 10, 2020, at 10:43 PM, Chuck McCown > >>> <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Only for ugly people. > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>> On May 10, 2020, at 7:59 PM, James Howard > >>> <ja...@litewire.net <mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> There are 2 separate issues. Having the government > >>> tell everyone they must wear a mask is one thing. A > >>> business requiring customers wear a mask to enter > >>> their store is another. The second actually > >>> correlates to your example and is certainly the right > >>> of any business to put certain requirements on using > >>> their facility (within lawful limits of course). 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