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Depends on your backup tool. I'm
using ghettoVCB and it would definitely
be an interruption - really bad for
stateful things.
Keep in mind you're only backing up a
vmdisk with maybe 128 megabytes.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 9:55 AM Steven
Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org>
wrote:
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Most
backup tools are agnostic.Â
They use Vmwares' functions to
do the backups and the vmware
tools to either quiesce the
file system, create deltas
etc. The process in how it
is done is similar across all
platforms, Veeam Acronis,
Nakivo etc. The performance
is dependent on how well the
hardware performs. For
example I have one server that
isn't very large on the same
host as a server that is a
massive moving target (non
stop writing/reading). One
will backup much faster than
the other depending on the
storage capabilities, network
capabilities .. overall the
hardware capabilities. If I
moved both servers to a new
host with better hardware,
faster network, Â the backups
times and performance would
increase on both. To the
point where possibly there is
no disruption for either
server.
The question is whether or not
people have done virtual
backups on CHR's without
disruptions, specifically on
this Maxxwave. Â
HA (high availability) has
nothing to do with this
scenario. The CHR would have
to be non responsive for quite
a long time without any other
processes still taking place
to it (the entire backup
process would have had to have
crashed). For me HA only
works if a server is down on 1
host, it'll bring it up on
another host. It won't bring
up copies of VM's if a backup
is taking a while. Â If any
backup takes that long I'd
never use it as a router. Â
Now there is proactive HA -
but that is a recipe for
disaster when running
routers. DRS as well is part
of that equation and I
wouldn't recommend that either
for a router. It could
possibly be a switching
nightmare unless you have the
higher end vsphere setup with
vswitches and virtual
networking. I'm just running
standard Vsphere. Â
I think though Mikrotik CHR's
are pretty lightweight
compared to some servers.Â
Most can be contained in
memory with little disk IO so
snapshots and commits will be
quick. The question was if
any customers use the Maxxwave
and how it performs with
backups/snapshots.
Also I reviewed the spec sheet
and it does show support for
larger than 10Gbps. Â
--
Steven Kenney
Network Operations Manager
WaveDirect Telecommunications
http://www.wavedirect.net
(519)737-WAVE
(9283)
From:
"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May
20, 2020 9:22:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
CCR2004 coming out
Your backup lag/performance is
your backup tool. If you do
a snapshot and copy, that will
mostly halt your system until
it can set aside a temporary
disk. If you do HA it won't
cause any delay.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 8:51
AM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> wrote:
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I
remember seeing these
several years ago.Â
Anyone know if they
have support coming
for faster than
10Gbps? Anyone run
these in an actual
vsphere environment?Â
How are snapshots and
backups for it? Any
lag or performance
hits during the
process? Â
--
Steven Kenney
Network Operations
Manager
WaveDirect
Telecommunications
http://www.wavedirect.net
(519)737-WAVE
(9283)
From:
"Kurt Fankhauser"
<lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Friday,
May 15, 2020 11:02:28
AM
Subject: Re:
[AFMUG] CCR2004 coming
out
Baltic does not have
any native x86
Mikrotik Router. They
are using CHR on the
Maxxwave Vengence
appliance, which works
remarkably well.
On Wed, May 13, 2020
at 9:52 AM Josh
Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
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Baltic seems
to be the go to
for x86
Mikrotik. He
seems to always
be on top of it.
Josh Luthman
Office:
937-552-2340
Direct:
937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, May 12,
2020 at 3:13 PM
Kurt Fankhauser
<lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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I will
second the
Baltic
Networks
Vengence 2
CHR. Has been
nothing but
totally
reliable since
we got one in
January. Only
pushing about
1.5gbps
through it
though, but
BGP converge
times are
insanely fast
and it was
darn near the
same cost as a
CCR1072.
On Tue, May
12, 2020 at
12:25 PM James
Howard <ja...@litewire.net>
wrote:
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Yeah, there
seems to be is
the key……
 I did that
with the last
one and had
some
compatibility
issues with
the SFP+ cards
and didn’t
really end up
saving any
money over
buying one
already put
together. Â
From:
AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam
Moffett
Sent:
Tuesday, May
12, 2020 11:13
AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject:
Re: [AFMUG]
CCR2004 coming
out
I'd imagine
you can source
a pretty burly
network
appliance PC
from
somewhere.Â
There seem to
be dozens of
options.
On 5/12/2020
11:57 AM,
James Howard
wrote:
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Baltic says
they aren’t
sure when
they’re
going to get
the Maxxwave
in again. We
have one of
the Maxxwave
i7s and would
just get more
if they were
available. I
was hoping
Dennis would
reply. They
don’t seem
to list the
PowerRouter
that they used
to sell on
their site
anymore.
From:
AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken
Hohhof
Sent:
Tuesday, May
12, 2020 10:45
AM
To:
'AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject:
Re: [AFMUG]
CCR2004 coming
out
Baltic/Maxxwave has one, but their web store shows out of stock, is it
actually
discontinued?Â
Linktechs
might have
one, if you
don’t want
to build your
own.
From:
AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of James
Howard
Sent:
Tuesday, May
12, 2020 10:17
AM
To:
'AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group'
<af@af.afmug.com>
Subject:
Re: [AFMUG]
CCR2004 coming
out
So what is
awesome and
available
now? We had
an i7 box
(network
appliance I
guess) running
Mikrotik take
a dump so we
need to get
another backup
(or two).Â
Nobody seems
to have i7
based Mikrotik
boxes
available.Â
BGP is a
must.Â
We’re
running CHR on
our current
boxes.
From:
AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis
Burgess via AF
Sent:
Tuesday, May
12, 2020 9:51
AM
To:
AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group
<af@af.afmug.com>
Cc:
Dennis Burgess
<dmburg...@linktechs.net>
Subject:
Re: [AFMUG]
CCR2004 coming
out
I would not
expect it to
be "AWSOME"
till v7....
Dennis Burgess
Mikrotik :
Trainer,
Network
Associate,
Routing
Engineer,
Wireless
Engineer,
Traffic
Control
Engineer,
Inter-Networking
Engineer,
Security
Engineer,
Enterprise
Wireless
Engineer
Hurricane
Electric: IPv6
Sage Level
Cambium: ePMP
Author of
"Learn
RouterOS-
Second
Edition"
Link
Technologies,
Inc --
Mikrotik &
WISP Support
Services
Office:
314-735-0270
 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
Create
Wireless
Coverage's
with www.towercoverage.com
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Sent: Monday,
May 11, 2020
11:51 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re:
[AFMUG]
CCR2004 coming
out
Surprisingly
bad BGP
results from
the CCR2004
https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=161044
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