i would HIGHLY recommend (especially with CBRS but also just in general)
using the color code feature and putting a unique color code on each AP.
 it gives you much more control to prevent unintended consequences.

like josh said tho, as for the SAS the CPE is in the same location aimed in
the same direction so no change.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:40 AM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Sooooo... here's a situation I bet no one thought about...
>
> I have an AP at 0 degrees north, and my CPE is directly south at 180.  I
> file as such.
>
> The AP goes offline but the CPEs now see a sector directly behind them
> and connect to that.
>
> Is the reported to the SAS azimuth now 0 degrees (dish is pointing
> north) or 180 degrees (CPE is attached to a sector behind it off the
> backside)?
>
>
>
>
> On 8/13/20 12:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > Well, the SAS doesn’t care.  But to get authorized to transmit and to
> > send heartbeats, the SM needs to communicate SM-AP-cnMaestro.  And it
> > needs to use that trick where a CBSD is allowed to transmit very briefly
> > before authorization, and then the AP takes the SM under its wing and
> > gets the grant information from cnMaestro.
> >
> > Similar mechanism if you set alternate color codes, so SMs can move
> > automatically to an alternate sector.
> >
> > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2020 10:31 AM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] replacing a CBRS AP
> >
> > That would make sense.  The AP/SM thing is just a Cambium/CNmaestro
> > thing.  CBRS doesn't care who the parent is, it needs to know the
> > bearing/elevation/position.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:46 AM Kurt Fankhauser
> > <lists.wavel...@gmail.com <mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     so all you do is put up a 2nd AP and once its online change the
> >     Color Code to the same code the old SM's are and the sms move over
> >     to the new AP and the CBRS data transfers over automatically in
> Maestro?
> >
> >     On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 6:14 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
> >     <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
> >
> >         Matt thanks, we did that today and all the SMs just moved
> >         automagically to the replacement AP.
> >
> >         We imported a sector consisting of just the empty AP, and pre
> >         approved onboarding in cnMaestro.  It was Authorized and Waiting
> >         for Device.  Once the new AP was plugged in, it synced and
> >         enabled CBRS and the SMs moved over without any manual
> >         intervention.  Pretty cool.
> >
> >         *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
> >         <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Matt Mays
> >         *Sent:* Monday, August 10, 2020 11:19 AM
> >         *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> >         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] replacing a CBRS AP
> >
> >         In my experience, you just CPI file a new empty AP and sync it
> >         once you have it in place.
> >         The SMs should move to the new AP in the SAS admin tool once
> >         they register and the grants get re-used.
> >
> >         Then once the old AP is empty in cnMaestro SAS Admin tool you
> >         deregister the old AP and delete it from the system.
> >
> >         No reason to refile all of the subs just to swap out the AP.
> >
> >         Thanks,
> >         Matt Mays
> >         Amplex Internet
> >
> >         On 8/10/2020 11:18 AM, dave wrote:
> >
> >             Ken,
> >               since the addition of the export button in the management
> >             tool it makes it easy todo.
> >             The key is ensuring you have a current sheet with all of
> >             your sector info and subs info up to date.
> >             update the sheet with new AP and your ready to go.
> >
> >             Of course to answer your question to make a smoother
> >             transition is to place the new ap into part 90
> >             so you obtain all of your subs then update your management
> tool.
> >
> >             I am sure someone here may correct me if im wrong.
> >
> >             Thanks
> >             Dave
> >
> >
> >             On 8/10/20 8:46 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >
> >                 Has anyone figured out the best procedure for replacing
> >                 a Cambium CBRS AP?
> >
> >                 I’m guessing there is something more elegant and less
> >                 disruptive than deleting the whole sector while the tech
> >                 is swapping out the AP and then re importing into
> >                 cnMaestro from a spreadsheet and hoping everything goes
> >                 smoothly and customers are only down for a few minutes.
> >
> >                 I’m talking about replacing an AP that is in service but
> >                 with issues.  Over the years we’ve run into RF issues
> >                 with the original connectorized 450 APs.  I’ve never
> >                 established whether it’s the AP or the sector antenna,
> >                 but replacing it solves the modulation and V/H ratio
> issues.
> >
> >                 The same procedure would also apply if you are upgrading
> >                 to a 450i or 450m AP.
> >
> >
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