You could utilize primary/secondary color codes, too.

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On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 2:54 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

> i would HIGHLY recommend (especially with CBRS but also just in general)
> using the color code feature and putting a unique color code on each AP.
>  it gives you much more control to prevent unintended consequences.
>
> like josh said tho, as for the SAS the CPE is in the same location aimed
> in the same direction so no change.
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:40 AM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> Sooooo... here's a situation I bet no one thought about...
>>
>> I have an AP at 0 degrees north, and my CPE is directly south at 180.  I
>> file as such.
>>
>> The AP goes offline but the CPEs now see a sector directly behind them
>> and connect to that.
>>
>> Is the reported to the SAS azimuth now 0 degrees (dish is pointing
>> north) or 180 degrees (CPE is attached to a sector behind it off the
>> backside)?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/13/20 12:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> > Well, the SAS doesn’t care.  But to get authorized to transmit and to
>> > send heartbeats, the SM needs to communicate SM-AP-cnMaestro.  And it
>> > needs to use that trick where a CBSD is allowed to transmit very
>> briefly
>> > before authorization, and then the AP takes the SM under its wing and
>> > gets the grant information from cnMaestro.
>> >
>> > Similar mechanism if you set alternate color codes, so SMs can move
>> > automatically to an alternate sector.
>> >
>> > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2020 10:31 AM
>> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] replacing a CBRS AP
>> >
>> > That would make sense.  The AP/SM thing is just a Cambium/CNmaestro
>> > thing.  CBRS doesn't care who the parent is, it needs to know the
>> > bearing/elevation/position.
>> >
>> > Josh Luthman
>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>> > 1100 Wayne St
>> > Suite 1337
>> > Troy, OH 45373
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:46 AM Kurt Fankhauser
>> > <lists.wavel...@gmail.com <mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     so all you do is put up a 2nd AP and once its online change the
>> >     Color Code to the same code the old SM's are and the sms move over
>> >     to the new AP and the CBRS data transfers over automatically in
>> Maestro?
>> >
>> >     On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 6:14 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
>> >     <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         Matt thanks, we did that today and all the SMs just moved
>> >         automagically to the replacement AP.
>> >
>> >         We imported a sector consisting of just the empty AP, and pre
>> >         approved onboarding in cnMaestro.  It was Authorized and Waiting
>> >         for Device.  Once the new AP was plugged in, it synced and
>> >         enabled CBRS and the SMs moved over without any manual
>> >         intervention.  Pretty cool.
>> >
>> >         *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>> >         <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Matt Mays
>> >         *Sent:* Monday, August 10, 2020 11:19 AM
>> >         *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>> >         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] replacing a CBRS AP
>> >
>> >         In my experience, you just CPI file a new empty AP and sync it
>> >         once you have it in place.
>> >         The SMs should move to the new AP in the SAS admin tool once
>> >         they register and the grants get re-used.
>> >
>> >         Then once the old AP is empty in cnMaestro SAS Admin tool you
>> >         deregister the old AP and delete it from the system.
>> >
>> >         No reason to refile all of the subs just to swap out the AP.
>> >
>> >         Thanks,
>> >         Matt Mays
>> >         Amplex Internet
>> >
>> >         On 8/10/2020 11:18 AM, dave wrote:
>> >
>> >             Ken,
>> >               since the addition of the export button in the management
>> >             tool it makes it easy todo.
>> >             The key is ensuring you have a current sheet with all of
>> >             your sector info and subs info up to date.
>> >             update the sheet with new AP and your ready to go.
>> >
>> >             Of course to answer your question to make a smoother
>> >             transition is to place the new ap into part 90
>> >             so you obtain all of your subs then update your management
>> tool.
>> >
>> >             I am sure someone here may correct me if im wrong.
>> >
>> >             Thanks
>> >             Dave
>> >
>> >
>> >             On 8/10/20 8:46 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> >
>> >                 Has anyone figured out the best procedure for replacing
>> >                 a Cambium CBRS AP?
>> >
>> >                 I’m guessing there is something more elegant and less
>> >                 disruptive than deleting the whole sector while the tech
>> >                 is swapping out the AP and then re importing into
>> >                 cnMaestro from a spreadsheet and hoping everything goes
>> >                 smoothly and customers are only down for a few minutes.
>> >
>> >                 I’m talking about replacing an AP that is in service but
>> >                 with issues.  Over the years we’ve run into RF issues
>> >                 with the original connectorized 450 APs.  I’ve never
>> >                 established whether it’s the AP or the sector antenna,
>> >                 but replacing it solves the modulation and V/H ratio
>> issues.
>> >
>> >                 The same procedure would also apply if you are upgrading
>> >                 to a 450i or 450m AP.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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