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I did all their backbones. Right up the road is one of the largest NSA data centers on the planet. We have Google and Ebay too. Even my nascent FTTH will be on a terabit ring with 3 carriers on it with the ability for a point to point back up to the ring. Hell, a terrorist would have a hard time taking me down without inside info. That is the awesome thing about the internet, it is like firing bullets at the terminator. Moreover, even the most well funded and organized group attempting to hurt our nation were able to only take over 3.5 aircraft. They hurt our psyche but not our infrastructure. And it was a small handful. Where are you going to find 1000 terrorists all willing to go through training undetected and no defections to carry out this multiple point coordinated attack? You are under much greater threat from this gps tracker they will be injecting into you with the covid vaccine... From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:14 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security My opinion is this kind of thinking is total horseshit. FB alone has about 100 data centers. The one I installed all their long haul routes to has 5 large cables running hundreds of miles radiating from the data center in all the ordinal compass points. Just knowing which gravel road out in the country has a FB cable and then cutting it, does not take them down. You will have to hit all the routes. Then the buildings itself is huge. Like a square mile huge. 100% poured reinforced concrete. Even if you had a rider truck full of anfo you would get shot at while driving through the perimeter fence and then you would just wipe out some administrative offices etc. Not even get close to where the servers are. And then do that 100 other places at the same time? And then you only got FB. Google, Amazon... Never gonna happen. From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:58 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security Yes. Fiber can be repaired. And then repaired again. And then repaired again. It all adds up down the route. Plus the data center is destroyed. While folks are concentrating on ground zero the fiber is being destroyed at multiple places down the road. Then with infrastructure destroyed a major attack of some sort takes place. On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: You don't need a terrorist to take out the satellites. One well-timed CME will do it all. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 12/26/2020 8:27 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: At least the satellites are safe, we have Space Force. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:18 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security Never thought about that. Yo get the data center back up. But your fibers all down. In 5 places. But you only find out once you get one back together. Yeah. We’re safe because no one has done it. Not because we’re safe. On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote: I've thought about how vulnerable the entire US power and communications grid is. It would be so easy to cut multiple long haul fibers, plant bombs at large power transmission lines and then sync it all together to explode, cut things at the same time. It could easily be done in rural areas only but still affect metros since they all feed from rural power and fiber lines. There's also no cameras or as many people monitoring things in the middle of nowhere. If this was done over multiple states and targeted multiple grids and fibers, you could almost knock out 90% of all power and communication. This would hurt more than any single location attack. On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 9:54 AM Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: I hesitated on where to post this. Not that I think I’m giving anyone any ideas - but still. What happened in Nashville has actually been a concern of mine for some time. Look at 9/11. Huge loss of life yes. But that took a lot of effort and planning and getting through security and learning to basically fly a massive tin projectile. How much more damage could a small group do with 5 or 6 vans loaded with explosives in a coordinated attack on say: NYC, 401N Broad, Ashburn, St Louis, Chicago and San Jose? Throw in a few major CO switching offices in some major towns. You’ve caused mass disaster. Minimal planning. 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