Except it just did.
> On Dec 26, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: > > > My opinion is this kind of thinking is total horseshit. > > FB alone has about 100 data centers. > > The one I installed all their long haul routes to has 5 large cables running > hundreds of miles radiating from the data center in all the ordinal compass > points. Just knowing which gravel road out in the country has a FB cable and > then cutting it, does not take them down. You will have to hit all the > routes. > > Then the buildings itself is huge. Like a square mile huge. 100% poured > reinforced concrete. Even if you had a rider truck full of anfo you would > get shot at while driving through the perimeter fence and then you would just > wipe out some administrative offices etc. Not even get close to where the > servers are. > > And then do that 100 other places at the same time? > And then you only got FB. Google, Amazon... > > Never gonna happen. > > > > From: Matt Hoppes > Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:58 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security > > Yes. Fiber can be repaired. And then repaired again. And then repaired again. > It all adds up down the route. Plus the data center is destroyed. > > While folks are concentrating on ground zero the fiber is being destroyed at > multiple places down the road. > > Then with infrastructure destroyed a major attack of some sort takes place. > >> On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> You don't need a terrorist to take out the satellites. One well-timed CME >> will do it all. >> >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> On 12/26/2020 8:27 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> At least the satellites are safe, we have Space Force. >>> >>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes >>> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:18 AM >>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security >>> >>> Never thought about that. Yo get the data center back up. But your fibers >>> all down. In 5 places. But you only find out once you get one back together. >>> >>> Yeah. We’re safe because no one has done it. Not because we’re safe. >>> >>> >>> On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I've thought about how vulnerable the entire US power and communications >>> grid is. >>> >>> It would be so easy to cut multiple long haul fibers, plant bombs at large >>> power transmission lines and then sync it all together to explode, cut >>> things at the same time. It could easily be done in rural areas only but >>> still affect metros since they all feed from rural power and fiber lines. >>> >>> There's also no cameras or as many people monitoring things in the middle >>> of nowhere. If this was done over multiple states and targeted multiple >>> grids and fibers, you could almost knock out 90% of all power and >>> communication. This would hurt more than any single location attack. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 9:54 AM Matt Hoppes >>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: >>> I hesitated on where to post this. Not that I think I’m giving anyone any >>> ideas - but still. >>> >>> What happened in Nashville has actually been a concern of mine for some >>> time. >>> >>> Look at 9/11. Huge loss of life yes. But that took a lot of effort and >>> planning and getting through security and learning to basically fly a >>> massive tin projectile. >>> >>> How much more damage could a small group do with 5 or 6 vans loaded with >>> explosives in a coordinated attack on say: NYC, 401N Broad, Ashburn, St >>> Louis, Chicago and San Jose? >>> >>> Throw in a few major CO switching offices in some major towns. >>> >>> You’ve caused mass disaster. Minimal planning. And now with 911 services >>> out and data crippled you could do something else even more major. >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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