Except it just did. 

> On Dec 26, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> My opinion is this kind of thinking is total horseshit.
>  
> FB alone has about 100 data centers.
>  
> The one I installed all their long haul routes to has 5 large cables running 
> hundreds of miles radiating from the data center in all the ordinal compass 
> points.  Just knowing which gravel road out in the country has a FB cable and 
> then cutting it, does not take them down.  You will have to hit all the 
> routes. 
>  
> Then the buildings itself is huge.  Like a square mile huge.  100% poured 
> reinforced concrete.  Even if you had a rider truck full of anfo you would 
> get shot at while driving through the perimeter fence and then you would just 
> wipe out some administrative offices etc.  Not even get close to where the 
> servers are. 
>  
> And then do that 100 other places at the same time?
> And then you only got FB.  Google, Amazon...
>  
> Never gonna happen.
>  
>  
>  
> From: Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:58 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
>  
> Yes. Fiber can be repaired. And then repaired again. And then repaired again. 
> It all adds up down the route. Plus the data center is destroyed.
>  
> While folks are concentrating on ground zero the fiber is being destroyed at 
> multiple places down the road.
>  
> Then with infrastructure destroyed a major attack of some sort takes place.
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> You don't need a terrorist to take out the satellites. One well-timed CME 
>> will do it all.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> On 12/26/2020 8:27 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>> At least the satellites are safe, we have Space Force.
>>>  
>>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:18 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
>>>  
>>> Never thought about that. Yo get the data center back up. But your fibers 
>>> all down. In 5 places. But you only find out once you get one back together.
>>>  
>>> Yeah. We’re safe because no one has done it. Not because we’re safe.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've thought about how vulnerable the entire US power and communications 
>>> grid is.
>>>  
>>> It would be so easy to cut multiple long haul fibers, plant bombs at large 
>>> power transmission lines and then sync it all together to explode, cut 
>>> things at the same time. It could easily be done in rural areas only but 
>>> still affect metros since they all feed from rural power and fiber lines.
>>>  
>>> There's also no cameras or as many people monitoring things in the middle 
>>> of nowhere. If this was done over multiple states and targeted multiple 
>>> grids and fibers, you could almost knock out 90% of all power and 
>>> communication. This would hurt more than any single location attack.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 9:54 AM Matt Hoppes 
>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>> I hesitated on where to post this. Not that I think I’m giving anyone any 
>>> ideas - but still. 
>>> 
>>> What happened in Nashville has actually been a concern of mine for some 
>>> time. 
>>> 
>>> Look at 9/11. Huge loss of life yes. But that took a lot of effort and 
>>> planning and getting through security and learning to basically fly a 
>>> massive tin projectile. 
>>> 
>>> How much more damage could a small group do with 5 or 6 vans loaded with 
>>> explosives in a coordinated attack on say: NYC, 401N Broad, Ashburn, St 
>>> Louis, Chicago and San Jose?
>>> 
>>> Throw in a few major CO switching offices in some major towns. 
>>> 
>>> You’ve caused mass disaster. Minimal planning. And now with 911 services 
>>> out and data crippled you could do something else even more major. 
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