It didn’t. One single isolated incident is not a coordinated attack on 100 or
1000 datacenters. This is the rude fart of an anarchist.
And you watch how fast the network heals in Nashville...
From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:31 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
Except it just did.
On Dec 26, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
My opinion is this kind of thinking is total horseshit.
FB alone has about 100 data centers.
The one I installed all their long haul routes to has 5 large cables running
hundreds of miles radiating from the data center in all the ordinal compass
points. Just knowing which gravel road out in the country has a FB cable and
then cutting it, does not take them down. You will have to hit all the routes.
Then the buildings itself is huge. Like a square mile huge. 100% poured
reinforced concrete. Even if you had a rider truck full of anfo you would get
shot at while driving through the perimeter fence and then you would just wipe
out some administrative offices etc. Not even get close to where the servers
are.
And then do that 100 other places at the same time?
And then you only got FB. Google, Amazon...
Never gonna happen.
From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
Yes. Fiber can be repaired. And then repaired again. And then repaired again.
It all adds up down the route. Plus the data center is destroyed.
While folks are concentrating on ground zero the fiber is being destroyed at
multiple places down the road.
Then with infrastructure destroyed a major attack of some sort takes place.
On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
You don't need a terrorist to take out the satellites. One well-timed CME
will do it all.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 12/26/2020 8:27 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
At least the satellites are safe, we have Space Force.
From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:18 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
Never thought about that. Yo get the data center back up. But your fibers
all down. In 5 places. But you only find out once you get one back together.
Yeah. We’re safe because no one has done it. Not because we’re safe.
On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
wrote:
I've thought about how vulnerable the entire US power and
communications grid is.
It would be so easy to cut multiple long haul fibers, plant bombs at
large power transmission lines and then sync it all together to explode, cut
things at the same time. It could easily be done in rural areas only but still
affect metros since they all feed from rural power and fiber lines.
There's also no cameras or as many people monitoring things in the
middle of nowhere. If this was done over multiple states and targeted multiple
grids and fibers, you could almost knock out 90% of all power and
communication. This would hurt more than any single location attack.
On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 9:54 AM Matt Hoppes
<mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
I hesitated on where to post this. Not that I think I’m giving anyone
any ideas - but still.
What happened in Nashville has actually been a concern of mine for
some time.
Look at 9/11. Huge loss of life yes. But that took a lot of effort
and planning and getting through security and learning to basically fly a
massive tin projectile.
How much more damage could a small group do with 5 or 6 vans loaded
with explosives in a coordinated attack on say: NYC, 401N Broad, Ashburn, St
Louis, Chicago and San Jose?
Throw in a few major CO switching offices in some major towns.
You’ve caused mass disaster. Minimal planning. And now with 911
services out and data crippled you could do something else even more major.
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