In other words, garden variety ata would trigger the UNA ring terminals.  

From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 11:04 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Old Phone Question

Yep, found it in an old NEC PABX manual.  UNA  Unattended Night Answer /  Night 
Service /Night Ring

You have two inputs to trigger the ringing tone:
1) contact closure to the UNA terminals
2) apply ringing voltage to the UNA ring terminals.  So a FXO IAD could do 
that.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 10:24 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Old Phone Question

Probably UNA = Universal Night Answering

 

Guessing now, at night it would ring over the intercom and the night 
watchman/receptionist/etc could answer the call from any phone by dialing a 
feature code.

 

Not sure now to answer your questions though.  Is the customer asking for a 
night answering capability?  You’d think these days that need would be met in a 
different way, like send incoming calls to voicemail/email or a cellphone 
outside of business hours.  Even the idea of speakers with music and pages 
seems very old-timey.  I guess I see it in grocery stores, with music and 
announcements like “cleanup in aisle 6”.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 10:57 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Old Phone Question

 

So I actually need a device which would ACCEPT the dialtone/ring and that would 
go on the Page Tip/Page Ring contacts.  Any Idea what UNA Ringing is?  Googling 
just returns a bunch of Spanish results.  Would that broadcast the phone 
ringing sound over the PA?  So connect a normal FXS Port to that?  

On 12/23/2020 2:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  If you configure an ATA that will actually draw dial tone from a POTS line, 
then it will work with this paging adapter.  I think that would be an FXS 
config.  FXO would give you dial tone from the ATA.  Been a very long time 
since I use the linksys/cisco spa products to extend dial tone over the 
internet, but they seemed to work fine.  

   

  From: Daniel White 

  Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:23 PM

  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Nate Burke 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Old Phone Question

   

  Algo (https://www.algosolutions.com/) and CyberData 
(https://www.cyberdata.net/collections/sip) are the go to brands for paging 
equipment that is SIP compatible along with adapters.  Viking Electronics 
(https://www.vikingelectronics.com/) does make a number of items that make it 
easy to work with old paging systems.  I didn't look at the manual, but the 
RAD-1A (https://www.vikingelectronics.com//products/rad-1a/) from Viking is 
probably what you are looking for paired with an ATA.

  Depending on the layout and configuration of what you are working with you 
can do certain things with a standard ATA (usually just FXS ports) and certain 
things with an ATA with an FXO port (these usually have FXS ports as well).

  As far as Atheral goes... I won't support trying to jury rig an ATA into 
these situations typically just because they can be finicky and I can't see how 
someone is installing something.  Although some ATA manufacturers have 
different terms for configurations that should do what you want, in my 
experience they typically don't behave the way I'd expect.  Algo, CyberData, 
and Viking make all of this stuff simple so it is just better to go that route.

   


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    Nate Burke

    December 22, 2020 at 17:02

    So I'm not saying it's old.... but this was put in when I was still in High 
School 

    Valcom V-2001 paging system.  I'm looking to convert the driving phone 
system over to VoIP. 

    I've found the manual here.  https://www.valcom.com/pdf/v-2001.pdf 

    It references terms I'm not familiar with.  It says 'Compatible with Any 
Electronic Key or PABX'  Does that mean that I can use an ATA to plug into it?  
Or is this something special? 

    There are currently wires hooked up to contacts labeled 'Page Tip/Page 
Ring'  And 'UNA Ringing' (2 wires)  I"m guessing Page Tip/ring are the 2 wires 
that would run to the ATA, but what is UNA Ringing? 

    Anybody hooked one of these up to an ATA before? 



   


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