Guessing when you say the new Mikrotik variant, you're talking about the nRay. I just picked up a pair of those for a link of about 250 ft. One issue I had with them is that the mount is all stainless steel hardware, and about 10 minutes after slightly tightening everything up, I found all the nuts were seized and I could no longer loosen it without breaking bolts. Even the alignment adjuster screws have this issue. I noticed everything was stainless before I started installing and should have just waited until I could get some non-stainless nuts to replace the stainless ones. But being the impatient idiot that I am, I decided I just wouldn't tighten them down too much, and then I'd pick up new hardware the next time I came back. Now, I'm looking at having to buy new mounts for both ends. Why do manufacturers use all stainless hardware? When I owned my WISP, we had this issue way back in the SmartBridge days (early 2000s). Seems like manufacturers should know better.
Craig On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 5:43 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: > The Mikrotiks are by far the easiest to align of any of the 60ghz stuff > I've tried, and I think they're probably the most reliable too. I have a > set of the new variant sitting here, and they look to be an improvement, > but I haven't tried them yet. They would be my first choice for super short > links. > > I had high hopes for the Cambium 60ghz, but unfortunately it looks like > they only support up to channel 4 (64.8ghz), which means they won't have > significantly different range than the Mikrotiks, but if you need more than > 1 gig, they're likely the best thing out there at the moment. > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 6:07 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> We ordered the newer variant of the wireless wire today, we will see how >> it goes. We are waiting to see how the cambium product does and plan on >> using the extensively for short short stuff, we have an odd number of banks >> with remote drivethroughs very nearby. >> >> I'm jaded on ignitnet. One of those incidental ones we dealt with had >> killed one of our POPs off and on, the operator had the apparent default >> 5ghz backup enabled and it was misaligned so it would sporadically trash >> 5ghz, noisy useless bastards that they are >> >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 4:31 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The 5ghz backup would have been pretty useless on longer links. The >>> problem is that it has tiny antennas (8dbi, if I remember right)... so it >>> really only worked for really short links anyway, and even then, it seemed >>> kind of buggy. >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:55 PM Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It’s wise of them to have dropped 5GHz because it never really worked >>>> all that well. >>>> >>>> The radios/antennas didn’t seem to be made for it and it ends up >>>> causing more issues than it solves IMO. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Carl Peterson >>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2021 2:50 PM >>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wireless Wire Dish @ 1km >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Seems strange to me that they dropped the 5GHz backup radio from the >>>> GBE Plus and the AF60LR. All the other 60GHz radios have a 5GHz backup of >>>> some sort. >>>> >>>> We have installed a number of the little 60GHz GBE radios and they seem >>>> solid for short links with easy aim. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:31 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I think they claim their "Wave AI" feature is supposed to somehow >>>> magically make long links work better... but yeah, being able to use >>>> 66-70ghz behaves more like 70/80ghz than the lower 60ghz band, so you can >>>> do much longer distances... you still have the same problem with rain fade, >>>> but even on something like a 1 mile link that will work at 64-65ghz, it >>>> works a lot better, since you have more signal to work with. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:11 PM Carl Peterson < >>>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Is that the only extra magic in the LR? They claim 12KM vs 2KM. I >>>> would never try 12 but I'm tempted to go for up to 3. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:02 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> At 1km it won't drop much, but it will still drop occasionally. >>>> Ubiquiti AF60LR will do a bit better than the other options, because it can >>>> use the higher channels. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 2:16 PM Dev <d...@logicalwebhost.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> 700 meter Ignitenet MetroLinq PTP60-35 running around -48dbm during >>>> clear day says it will do >2.5Gbps with this RSSI, these things do a ton of >>>> bandwidth. It hangs in there surprisingly well during rain unless it’s >>>> really DUMPING rain. I think during normal or heavy rain it’s still in the >>>> mid to high 50’s. Doesn’t seem to use the 5GHz backup much, but traffic >>>> drops off fast when you do. I have another link doing 1.3km, much worse in >>>> heavy rain, but very impressive throughput when it’s not raining, >>>> surprisingly. >>>> >>>> > On Feb 19, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > We havent dealt with 60ghz other than as an outside contractor so ive >>>> never looked at performance directly. At 1 km what kind of fade are we >>>> talking in a normal rain shower, and in a downpour? >>>> > We have had pretty good luck with af24 over the years but need more >>>> capacity, the fade in 60ghz concerns me, and I never understood the 60 ghz >>>> ones with 5ghz backup. its like a cruise ship having a backup canoe >>>> > -- >>>> > AF mailing list >>>> > AF@af.afmug.com >>>> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Carl Peterson >>>> >>>> *PORT NETWORKS* >>>> >>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >>>> >>>> Baltimore, MD 21202 >>>> >>>> (410) 637-3707 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Carl Peterson >>>> >>>> *PORT NETWORKS* >>>> >>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >>>> >>>> Baltimore, MD 21202 >>>> >>>> (410) 637-3707 >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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