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On 2/20/2021 1:44 PM, Craig Baird wrote:
Guessing when you say the new Mikrotik variant, you're talking about the nRay. I just picked up a pair of those for a link of about 250 ft. One issue I had with them is that the mount is all stainless steel hardware, and about 10 minutes after slightly tightening everything up, I found all the nuts were seized and I could no longer loosen it without breaking bolts. Even the alignment adjuster screws have this issue. I noticed everything was stainless before I started installing and should have just waited until I could get some non-stainless nuts to replace the stainless ones. But being the impatient idiot that I am, I decided I just wouldn't tighten them down too much, and then I'd pick up new hardware the next time I came back. Now, I'm looking at having to buy new mounts for both ends. Why do manufacturers use all stainless hardware? When I owned my WISP, we had this issue way back in the SmartBridge days (early 2000s). Seems like manufacturers should know better.

Craig

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 5:43 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Mikrotiks are by far the easiest to align of any of the 60ghz stuff I've tried, and I think they're probably the most reliable too. I have a set of the new variant sitting here, and they look to be an improvement, but I haven't tried them yet. They would be my first choice for super short links.

I had high hopes for the Cambium 60ghz, but unfortunately it looks like they only support up to channel 4 (64.8ghz), which means they won't have significantly different range than the Mikrotiks, but if you need more than 1 gig, they're likely the best thing out there at the moment. 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 6:07 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
We ordered the newer variant of the wireless wire today, we will see how it goes. We are waiting to see how the cambium product does and plan on using the extensively for short short stuff, we have an odd number of banks with remote drivethroughs very nearby.

I'm jaded on ignitnet. One of those incidental ones we dealt with had killed one of our POPs off and on, the operator had the apparent default 5ghz backup enabled and it was misaligned so it would sporadically trash 5ghz, noisy useless bastards that they are

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 4:31 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
The 5ghz backup would have been pretty useless on longer links. The problem is that it has tiny antennas (8dbi, if I remember right)... so it really only worked for really short links anyway, and even then, it seemed kind of buggy.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:55 PM Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:

It’s wise of them to have dropped 5GHz because it never really worked all that well.

The radios/antennas didn’t seem to be made for it and it ends up causing more issues than it solves IMO.

 

 

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Seems strange to me that they dropped the 5GHz backup radio from the GBE Plus and the AF60LR.  All the other 60GHz radios have a 5GHz backup of some sort.  

We have installed a number of the little 60GHz GBE radios and they seem solid for short links with easy aim.  

 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:31 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think they claim their "Wave AI" feature is supposed to somehow magically make long links work better... but yeah, being able to use 66-70ghz behaves more like 70/80ghz than the lower 60ghz band, so you can do much longer distances... you still have the same problem with rain fade, but even on something like a 1 mile link that will work at 64-65ghz, it works a lot better, since you have more signal to work with.

 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:11 PM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:

Is that the only extra magic in the LR?  They claim 12KM vs 2KM.  I would never try 12 but I'm tempted to go for up to 3.  

 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:02 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

At 1km it won't drop much, but it will still drop occasionally. Ubiquiti AF60LR will do a bit better than the other options, because it can use the higher channels. 

 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 2:16 PM Dev <d...@logicalwebhost.com> wrote:

700 meter Ignitenet MetroLinq PTP60-35 running around -48dbm during clear day says it will do >2.5Gbps with this RSSI, these things do a ton of bandwidth. It hangs in there surprisingly well during rain unless it’s really DUMPING rain. I think during normal or heavy rain it’s still in the mid to high 50’s. Doesn’t seem to use the 5GHz backup much, but traffic drops off fast when you do. I have another link doing 1.3km, much worse in heavy rain, but very impressive throughput when it’s not raining, surprisingly.

> On Feb 19, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> We havent dealt with 60ghz other than as an outside contractor so ive never looked at performance directly. At 1 km what kind of fade are we talking in a normal rain shower, and in a downpour?
> We have had pretty good luck with af24 over the years but need more capacity, the fade in 60ghz concerns me, and I never understood the 60 ghz ones with 5ghz backup. its like a cruise ship having a backup canoe
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