Yeah this topic is a whole 'nother kettle of fish.
I'm generally in favor of providing the customer a router for a nominal
fee. Like $5-10/month for a router as a service. I like the visibility
to be able to see which specific device is consuming the whole pipe, or
to see if a connectivity issue is due to wifi signal or something else.
It lets me speak from a position of having empirical observations of
what is wrong instead of inferring.
But it takes a certain amount of knowledge and/or training to deal with
that, and I relate to the position of ISP's who don't want to bother
with it.
On 12/15/2021 10:54 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
"Customer owning the router fixes those issues."
As long as the customer is involved in anything at all (kind of hard
to avoid), expect problems. ;-)
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*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 in home routers
Because they / their IT person are smart at avoiding problems.
Most ISP-provided routers aren't setup (or the customer is not
knowledgeable enough) by someone to be following the same wireless
settings (or, for more advanced cases, port forwarding rules) as the
previous router, so customers find random printers / doorbells /
lightbults / devices not working after an ISP-arranged router upgrade
or their changing of ISPs. Customer owning the router fixes those issues.
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 3:58 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
People still buy their own routers?
Why?
Just do it for the customer.
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*From: *dmmoff...@gmail.com
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*Sent: *Monday, December 13, 2021 3:51:07 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] IPv6 in home routers
I was doing some testing on our dual stack FTTX network.
I grabbed a CnPilot R201P off the shelf. IPv6 was disabled by
default. You had to enable it in 3 different places and even
after following the guides on Cambium’s site the prefix delegation
seems to not really work.
I grabbed an AirCube…..no IPv6 support at all. It’s supported in
the underlying OS, but not in the GUI. Ubiquiti support says it’s
coming, but they’ve been saying that for 2 years +.
I grabbed a Mikrotik…..works perfectly fine, but setup is beyond
what any consumer is going to do. If I’m quibbling, it doesn’t
support stateful dhcp assignments from a delegated prefix. That’s
not too big of a deal.
Out of 3 routers I have close at hand, 1 is a faulty
implementation, 1 is not implemented at all, and one is too hard
for normal people.
So when people run out to the store and get a Netgear, Asus, or
whatever router off the shelf is it hit-or-miss with those too? I
guess I naively assumed that 25 years after IPv6 was created that
we’d have working implementations by now.
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