On May 25, 2022, at 6:36 AM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bullshit Steve...immigrants haven't been killing
children or people with assault weapons...they
come here for a better life...
You don't live near the border...
You see things through a tunnel vision created by
xenophobic racist assholes...
I have been to Uvalde many times for work and
pleasure...as a grandfather of 16 school age
children this hit me very hard...
Fuck guns, fuck Trump, fuck Abbott, fuck Cruz,
fuck NRA, fuck GOP, pro life my ass..
On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:59 PM Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
No country that enacted these controls
already had the volume of firearms we have
presently. Comparing apples and turtles. Ban
them and you have nothing but illegal
weapons. We have a porous border that
democrats fight very hard to ensure whole
people can get across. Ban guns and see how
that turns out. Disarm real people and every
city and town will be Compton USA. Stop the
hugathug campaigns and the shootings will be
less.
You folks are only upset because some white
kids may have been shot. You dont care that
more kids of color are killed annually in
here and there shootings. Get off the big
ticket outrage bandwagon, its dispicable.
On Wed, May 25, 2022, 12:01 AM Darin Steffl
<darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
Stricter gun laws absolutely help reduce
violence. Look at every other country in
the world and how much less gun violence
they have.
Making guns harder to buy reduces the
supply available to criminals. Every gun
a criminal has/had was at some point sold
legally. Requiring universal background
checks means no more private sales
without a background check. Gun shows and
private party sales don't require checks
today when they should.
If background checks are required for any
sale or gift of a firearm, this means
sellers will be liable if the firearm
they sold/gifted is used to commit a
crime if they didn't do a background
check. Hold people accountable who put
guns into the hands of bad people. If a
child uses a parent's gun to commit a
crime, charge the parent for something
serious. Send a message that guns are
serious and dangerous in the wrong hands.
People will lock up their guns and be way
more careful about who they sell or gift
them to if they are liable for crimes
committed using their firearm.
Can't you see how these measures will
reduce the supply of legal guns going to
criminals and mentally unstable people?
Again, look at every other country that
has either gun bans or strict gun control
and their statistics clearly show that
they have less gun violence per capita.
If it works everywhere else, it WILL work
here.
Red flag laws and revokation of gun
ownership should be passed too so if
someone becomes mentally unstable and
starts posting about threats or violence
they want to cause, the sheriff should be
able to sieze their guns until they have
a psych eval and can prove they're sane
enough to get their guns back.
This is a stupid saying: the only way to
stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy
with a gun.
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun
is to make sure they never have access to
a gun to begin with. There's multiple
reasons why arming more people is a bad
idea. There's too many cooks in the
kitchen then. Say you're in Texas at
church where many people carry. Someone
decides to start killing people in church
so 20 "good guys" with guns pull out
their pistol and have to decide who the
bad guy is... How many good guys end up
getting shot by other good guys? The
answer is quite a few. You don't always
know who the bad guy with a gun is if all
the good guys with guns draw at the same
time. You could be shot by other good
guys or cops on accident. Worse yet would
be shooting innocent bystanders because
there's a 20 person firefight happening
in church.
The solution goes back to people having
fewer guns and America getting rid of
their obsession with guns. Keep them for
hunting but don't make guns a personality
trait. The people who take family
Christmas card pictures all holding guns
is embarrassing as hell. Like can't you
just own guns and be private about it
instead of acting all Macho and
worshiping your weapons?!
FYI, I am a gun owner and have a permit
to carry. I do not carry but have the
ability to. I have several pistols and
some hunting rifles and shotguns. I have
no desire for an assault rifle and don't
see the need for others to want them
either. I think it should be much harder
to buy a gun and I support that.
The solution to gun violence is not to
hire more armed guards and police
officers to patrol schools and other
public places. All that does is cost tons
of money and doesn't prevent a bad guy
from shooting up a place. It may only
reduce the response time to take out the
shooter. Think 20 steps before we get to
the shooting. Preventing access to guns
is Step #1 in preventing these mass
shootings and requires no extra money or
armed guards.
Facts show these measures will work to
reduce gun violence. Opinions, thoughts
and prayers do nothing to stop gun
violence. Supporting the gun lobby does
not help. Allowing politicians to block
all gun control legislation does not
help. Over 90% of Americans support
universal background checks yet the
Republicans won't do a damn thing to pass
it.
I'll scream this until people hear it,
the Republicans are the obstructionist,
pro-death party. Their only platform is
to say no to democrats. They blocked
bills to reduce the cost on insulin, help
increase supply of baby formula, help
reduce gas prices, etc. They actively try
to hurt the American people. They take
away human rights. They lie about science
and allow their supporters to die from
covid by spreading misinformation. They
try to scare their supports by putting
the fear of God into them with baseless
claims of replacement theory, war on God,
indoctrination...
The party has become a joke. No spine and
full of cowards who won't stand up to
hateful rhetoric. A coup attempt on
January 6 and the party still spreads the
big lie that trump won when he clearly
lost in the most secure election in
history. The party is becoming worthless
and the younger generation won't tolerate
all the BS.
Democrat is the progressive party that
cares about all people and as long as we
keep it moderate and speak up about what
we like and don't like, they are likely
to listen. Reach out to your politicians
and tell them what you want them to do if
you don't agree with their platform.
On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:25 PM Jaime
Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
Fuck our piece of shit governor,
Trumpabbott and all his gun loving
supporters...
Fuck his press release...
These pieces of shit...are supposed
to be at an NRA event next week
Trumputinsky, Trumpabbott and Ted
Cancun Cruzado...fuck them to hell
On Tue, May 24, 2022, 6:34 PM Darin
Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
18 more children shot and killed.
Fuck thoughts and prayers from
the right. These damn Republicans
MUST agree to some sort of
sensible gun control.
Guns need to be hard to purchase,
not easy. Red flag laws need to
be passed. Background checks for
any and all purchases, no
exceptions.
Another shooting, more dead
children and the Republicans want
to do nothing. They'll gladly
keep letting Americans die in
order to keep gun nuts happy.
Something over 60% of Americans
support stricter gun control.
Republicans continue to be the
pro-death party. How embarrassing
and shameful!! If you vote
republican, start reaching out to
your politicians and ask them to
fucking do something!! This is a
goddamn joke. These mass
shootings only happen in America.
I support if you're conservative
but you must voice your opinion
if your party keeps messing up.
Tell them to take action!
On Mon, May 23, 2022, 2:40 PM
<dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
Figuratively inside the lines.
Color Within the Lines -
Album by Oscar Ortega | Spotify
*From:* AF
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022
1:56 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave
Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT
mildly political
...you mean outside the lines?
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:47
PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
NYDOT can be pretty
accommodating, but they
definitely have a lot of
rules and they do want
you to color inside the
lines.
*From:* AF
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
*On Behalf Of *Chuck
McCown via AF
*Sent:* Monday, May 23,
2022 1:37 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Cc:* Chuck McCown
<ch...@go-mtc.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT
mildly political
Once we had to cut a road
with an excavator. Then
we had to do compacted
fill in lifts, the
asphalt on the top had to
be milled down on both
sides so the profile of
the patch formed a T
shape. We used the hot
sticky apshalt oil in a
sprayer to spray down the
T patch prior to dumping
hot mix on it and
compacting. The guy
running the sprayer was
almost empty so he
sprayed some of the
gravel on the edges of
the road surface in the
gravel empty his
machine. Not sure why he
wanted to empty it as
normally they just shut
off the burner and pump
and add more the next day.
An inspector came out and
made us do defcon 1 full
hazmat clean up job where
he emptied his sprayer.
Then the next year they
chip sealed that road.
That involves laying down
rock chips and spraying
the whole road and a
portion of the shoulder
with the exact same hot
sticky asphalt oil mix we
got in trouble for the
year before. Same
inspector was there. I
got out and asked why
UDOT can do it and we
cannot, is the UDOT hot
asphalt oil less
hazardous. He told me to
get off his work site or
I would be arrested.
*From:*Bill Prince
*Sent:*Monday, May 23,
2022 9:56 AM
*To:*af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT
mildly political
but it's organic.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 5/23/2022 8:05 AM,
dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
“kile (with an I not
a Y and woke parents)
doesn't believe
asphalt and concrete
are environmentally
friendly”
Well an asphalt road
is kind of like a
really long oil spill
*From:*AF
mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
*On Behalf Of *Steve
Jones
*Sent:* Saturday, May
21, 2022 2:35 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm
Microwave Users Group
mailto:af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re:
[AFMUG] OT mildly
political
Most libertarians I
know are just
crybabies. They want
the benefits of
governance without
the costs. In a
libertarian society
to have a 100 mile
road, you would
destroy your car
every trip because
there would be no
single governing body
to maintain it in a
consistent manner.
Sure we have road
issues now, but every
property line you
cross would be a new
road. And if john at
mile 6 like
cobblestone, its
cobblestone, and you
know keith at mile 23
is gonna charge a 42
dollar toll, kile
(with an I not a Y
and woke parents)
doesn't believe
asphalt and concrete
are environmentally
friendly, so mile 36
is made of soy and
has long since been
eaten by animals,
paul at mile 52 is a
dick and stores all
his nails on his
road, then Greg up at
mile 99 he doesn't
like people so he put
boulders across his
mile.
These fools are just
kid brains who want
no government of
someone else's, they
want their government
based on their
current whim. Most of
their arguments break
down after a little
long term logic.
I also forgot to
mention, just like
wiping your ass, it's
best to not push too
hard on a 2022
liberal, you'll just
end up pushing
through to a
fingerful of shit.
On Fri, May 20, 2022,
12:53 PM Sean Heskett
<af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
Yeah the
libertarian
platform I agree
with, the Koch
brothers and the
(Ron/Rand) Paul
family are too
far out there in
whackadoodle land
for me.
-Sean
On Fri, May 20,
2022 at 7:02 AM
<dmmoff...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I read the
Libertarian
part platform
and thought I
could be on
board. I
registered as
Libertarian
and carried
the card in
my wallet.
…..and then I
met the other
libertarians. Some I can
relate with
and some
others are
absolutely
insane.
*From:*AF
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
*On Behalf Of
*Jason McKemie
*Sent:*
Thursday, May
19, 2022 6:47 PM
*To:*
AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group
<af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:*
Re: [AFMUG]
OT mildly
political
Yeah, the
nutjobs
ruined that
designation.
I used to
partially
identify as
libertarian,
I don't do
that anymore.
On Thursday,
May 19, 2022,
Sean Heskett
<af...@zirkel.us>
wrote:
Here in
ColoRADo
voting
libertarian
ends up
getting
people
like
Lauren
Bobert
elected
lol :-/
On Thu,
May 19,
2022 at
9:15 AM
Josh
Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:
It's
not a
throwaway
vote!!!! You
have
to
vote
libertarian
if
you
want
a
libertarian!
On
Thu,
May
19,
2022
at
11:06
AM
Sean
Heskett
<af...@zirkel.us>
wrote:
<Say
in
the
voice
of
Mr.
Mackey
from
South
Park>
Mmmkay
everyone,
all
you
“woke”
people
are
tried
and
cranky,
y’all
need
to
go
back
to
bed
and
get
some
rest.
-Sean
(For
the
record
I’m
registered
independent
,
socially
liberal,
fiscally
conservative,
I
would
vote
libertarian
if
it
wasn’t
a
throwaway
vote)
On
Thu,
May
19,
2022
at
8:53
AM
Chuck
McCown
via
AF
<af@af.afmug.com>
wrote:
Well,
maybe
their
thin
skin
needs
some
toughening
up. Everyone
could
use
some
more
grit.
In
my
experience,
those
that
feel
compelled
to
“call
out”
people
never
affect
positive
change. And
frequently
they
harm
themselves
in
the
trying.
Becoming
toxic
themselves
to
those
they
are
trying
to
shame/expose/coerce/educate/put
down.
What
good
does
it
do
to
tell
some
red
necked
construction
worker
that
he
is
being
racist? I
just
avoid
those
with
views
I
abhor. And
I
try
to
teach
by
example.
But
I
never
call
anyone
out.
At
work,
if
they
are
my
employee,
I
address
the
concern
in
private. If
they
don’t
change
I
fire
them.
Social
justice
warriors
are
idiots
in
my
opinion.
They
invent
a
noble
cause
with
which
to
enshroud
themselves
while
acting
out
in
socially
impolitic
ways,
a
good
reason,
in
their
mind,
to
be
an
anarchist.
Look
at
antifa
and
proud
boys.
Exact
same
people,
doing
the
exact
same
things,
for
the
exact
same
reasons.
The
ONLY
difference
is
some
contrived
battle
line
they
are
trying
to
advance.
*From:*Cameron
Crum
*Sent:*Thursday,
May
19,
2022
7:42
AM
*To:*AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users
Group
*Subject:*Re:
[AFMUG]
OT
mildly
political
You
stirred
the
liberal
hornets
nest
now,
Chuck.
On
Thu,
May
19,
2022
at
7:51
AM
<dmmoff...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Weirdly
opposite
here. My
brothers
are
vocally
alt-right.
All
ex-military,
all
purport
to
be
Christian.
One
is
dead
from
substance
abuse
and
suffered
a
variety
of
mental
health
issues. The
surviving
two
are
always
broke,
angry,
and
unhappy.
I
feel
like
I
have
to
tiptoe
around
them
so
they
don’t
fly
off
the
handle
about
anything.
…..and
I’m
not
at
all
“woke”. I
just
know
it’s
not
for
me
to
pass
judgement.
On
the
other
hand,
this
is
NY. Maybe
they
feel
like
they’re
the
rebels
fighting
the
evil
liberal
death
star.
Maybe
your
kids
in
Utah
feel
like
they’re
the
rebels
fighting
the
evil
Republican
death
star.
*From:*AF
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
*On
Behalf
Of
*Chuck
McCown
via
AF
*Sent:*
Wednesday,
May
18,
2022
6:11
PM
*To:*
af@af.afmug.com
*Cc:*
Chuck
McCown
<ch...@go-mtc.com>
*Subject:*
[AFMUG]
OT
mildly
political
Woke,
broke,
in
therapy
and
crazy
unhappy.
That
is
how
I
would
describe
some
of
my
kids.
The
alt
right
unwoke
ones
seem
to
have
money
and
happiness.
Never
expected
I
would
not
be
able
to
speak
my
mind
at
family
dinners
just
to
be
able
to
still
see
some
of
my
kids.
Feel
like
I
was
convicted
in
absentia,
thrown
in
the
hole
for
a
lifetime
sentence,
but
taken
out
of
solitary
confinement
now
and
then
at
their
whims
just
so
they
could
claim
to
have
compassion
on
me
for
a
half
hour
walk
in
the
woods.
Maybe
longer
if
I
pay
for
dinner.
Odd
times....
I
loved
my
parents
and
grandparents.
Never
felt
they
had
to
earn
it.
Never
would
have
thought
of
condemning
them
for
the
things
they
said.
Funny,
I
have
a
sister
that
lives
1000
miles
from
me. Our
families
were
separate
all
while
the
kids
were
growing.
But
some
of
hers
have
done
the
same
things
to
her. Using
the
exact
same
vernacular.
Must
have
something
to
do
with
energy
drinks
I
think.
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