Lumen likes the term “HSIP” lately.  “High Speed IP”

They’ve used that term both when we had a loop and when we were meeting them in 
a datacenter.

 

-Adam

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 4:14 PM
To: TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com>; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
<af@af.afmug.com>
Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

 

I prefer the term backbone...  Or uplink bw service or ... 

I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port in 
a data center

Dedicated Internet Access, right?  I wouldn’t call my connection to the data 
center a local loop.  It is dark fiber running about 60 miles.  So I call that 
element of the cost my “transit”.  Maybe someday I will learn all the words...

 

From: TJ Trout 

Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Cc: Chuck McCown 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

 

DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local 
loop which is most of the expense. 

 

HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 
2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. 

 

 

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think.  Transport was $1900 I think.  So $2500 
all in.  

 

From: TJ Trout 

Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

 

Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just 
call them EPLs lol 

 

Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM 
channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves 
(they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all 
the way to your equipment. 

 

Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the 
region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. 

DIA  $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500

10g waves $1200-$3000

 

 

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT&T sold waves.



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From: "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Hey guys,

 

We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is 
having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I 
have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of 
interest to you when you are ready to buy! 

 

Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at&t)

 

MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g 
aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can 
order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 
50 states! similar deal available with Comcast

 

DIA

att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month

 

Thank you,

 

TJ Trout

Volt Broadband

AS62809

 

 

 

 


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