Agreed.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com> To: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@go-mtc.com> Cc: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 3:21:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop) Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC Transport= Layer2 between sites On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown < ch...@go-mtc.com > wrote: I prefer the term backbone... Or uplink bw service or ... I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port in a data center Dedicated Internet Access, right? I wouldn’t call my connection to the data center a local loop. It is dark fiber running about 60 miles. So I call that element of the cost my “transit”. Maybe someday I will learn all the words... From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local loop which is most of the expense. HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF < af@af.afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So $2500 all in. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just call them EPLs lol Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all the way to your equipment. Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 10g waves $1200-$3000 On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: <blockquote> Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT&T sold waves. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "TJ Trout" < t...@voltbb.com > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy ! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at&t) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast DIA att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband AS62809 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> </blockquote> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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