IP Transit, DIA would normally be delivered directly to a business/tower and include the local transport loop
On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:27 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote: > Make that Cogent, not HE. > > *From:* Chuck McCown via AF > *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 2:24 PM > *To:* TJ Trout > *Cc:* Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc > promo > > So what do you call a port in a carriers cage? HE sells us 10G delivered > to a port in their cage in a data center. I understand paying for the > cross connect to get it to another cage where our dark fiber connection > starts. So what is that service I am paying for called? There is no local > loop involved. Is that transit? > > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 2:21 PM > *To:* Chuck McCown > *Cc:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc > promo > > DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop) > Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC > Transport= Layer2 between sites > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote: > >> I prefer the term backbone... Or uplink bw service or ... >> I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a >> port in a data center >> Dedicated Internet Access, right? I wouldn’t call my connection to the >> data center a local loop. It is dark fiber running about 60 miles. So I >> call that element of the cost my “transit”. Maybe someday I will learn all >> the words... >> >> *From:* TJ Trout >> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Cc:* Chuck McCown >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc >> promo >> >> DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include >> a local loop which is most of the expense. >> >> HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be >> had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So >>> $2500 all in. >>> >>> *From:* TJ Trout >>> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc >>> promo >>> >>> Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they >>> just call them EPLs lol >>> >>> Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using >>> DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to >>> the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are >>> native dwdm all the way to your equipment. >>> >>> Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on >>> the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. >>> DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 >>> 10g waves $1200-$3000 >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT&T sold waves. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com> >>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM >>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo >>>> >>>> Hey guys, >>>> >>>> We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that >>>> going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but >>>> occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if >>>> anything is of interest to you when you are *ready to buy*! >>>> >>>> Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at&t) >>>> >>>> MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or >>>> 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is >>>> you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major >>>> lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast >>>> >>>> DIA >>>> att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> TJ Trout >>>> Volt Broadband >>>> AS62809 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >
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