DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop)
Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC
Transport= Layer2 between sites

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:

> I prefer the term backbone...  Or uplink bw service or ...
> I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a
> port in a data center
> Dedicated Internet Access, right?  I wouldn’t call my connection to the
> data center a local loop.  It is dark fiber running about 60 miles.  So I
> call that element of the cost my “transit”.  Maybe someday I will learn all
> the words...
>
> *From:* TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc
> promo
>
> DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a
> local loop which is most of the expense.
>
> HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be
> had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>
>> Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think.  Transport was $1900 I think.  So
>> $2500 all in.
>>
>> *From:* TJ Trout
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc
>> promo
>>
>> Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they
>> just call them EPLs lol
>>
>> Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM
>> channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the
>> waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are
>> native dwdm all the way to your equipment.
>>
>> Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the
>> region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day.
>> DIA  $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500
>> 10g waves $1200-$3000
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT&T sold waves.
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From: *"TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com>
>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
>>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that
>>> going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but
>>> occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if
>>> anything is of interest to you when you are *ready to buy*!
>>>
>>> Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at&t)
>>>
>>> MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g
>>> aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you
>>> can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso
>>> in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast
>>>
>>> DIA
>>> att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> TJ Trout
>>> Volt Broadband
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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