I don't know about that. We've had people who requested service, and then
refused to sign our service agreement. No signy. No servicey. Our service
agreement was pretty short and simple.
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On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 1:01 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:
> You guys might not sign it, but a homeowner wanting fiber has the choice
> of a) no fiber or b) sign it....they're going to sign it.
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 12:10 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> That had like an 8 or 9 dollar price tag?
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 9:41 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> They didn’t call for a locate prior to drilling. Scuba divers had to
>>> dive inside the pipe and weld on a patch from the inside. Quite the
>>> ordeal. Good thing we had good insurance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2022 8:25 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>>>
>>> Ouch
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 8:09 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One of them was 48” I think and washed out a railroad track... And it
>>>> was our fault...
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:00 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>>>>
>>>> I have repaired tons of stuff, bought trees, bought sod, whatever it
>>>> takes to make the landowner happy. Not really their fault either if they
>>>> don’t know it is there. Just the cost of doing business. GL takes care of
>>>> hitting the city water main and washing it all into someone’s basement
>>>> etc. My crews have hit 4 city water mains and it is no picnic. 2 of them
>>>> were our fault.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2022 3:32 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>>>>
>>>> When the attorney feeds back I may update the erosion control. But I'm
>>>> no taking liability for somebody who chooses not to water. Even if I put
>>>> sod down it still needs water. I can the soil back in a condition conducive
>>>> to root growth, but I cant control what the landowner does.
>>>> I'll add a link to the JULIE website so customer can see what my
>>>> responsibilities are there. I do think adding that the customer may need to
>>>> expose their own things that's a good idea.
>>>> Will be waiting on the attorney for the what I will do's since that can
>>>> open a whole lot of liabilities.
>>>> I've read through a bunch of them and they range from pristine
>>>> restoration all the way to fuck you, pay me.
>>>> I just dont want to hit some leech field tie in and have to pay for
>>>> that.
>>>> I carry more insurance than I need but I prefer to not use it. Most
>>>> everything I can locate with the utiliguard, and I can repair most anything
>>>> I hit unknowingly.
>>>> An example is a nearby guy knicked an unknown LP run to a garage. It
>>>> leaked half a full tank and he had to pay for it out of pocket. I'd pay it
>>>> too, I just dont want to be obligated to.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 12:30 PM Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't sign either if I were a homeowner. I think you need to more
>>>>> clearly define what you will and won't do, and what you can and cannot
>>>>> reasonably avoid. For example, you can reasonably avoid a private
>>>>> power run to an out building if the homeowner discloses it's
>>>>> existence, you should have equipment to locate the exact path/depth.
>>>>> Other things that are not locatable, what we do is put the
>>>>> responsibility on the homeowner to locate & expose. We typically have
>>>>> to do this for drainage lines, dog fence wires etc. And you definitely
>>>>> do want a disclaimer of liability for hitting something that was not
>>>>> disclosed and you would have no way to know of it's existence.
>>>>> Whether that disclaimer would stand up in court is another issue. I
>>>>> also think telling the homeowner they are responsible for future
>>>>> erosion control is going too far, your crew should be doing enough
>>>>> restoration to stabilize the ground and get grass growing again.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 11:15 AM Steve Jones <st...@togservice.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You guys who do this want to review this and tell me what im
>>>>> missing. Ive sent it to the attorney for review but shes more an estate
>>>>> attorney, so may be that there are some gotchas im missing. I dont like
>>>>> that its 2 pages, but I like liability even less.
>>>>> > This is more for residential, small commercial and WISP/FISP work .
>>>>> I assume if I get into a bigger drill and bigger work, those contracts
>>>>> will
>>>>> address all that.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks in advance
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