There's an exception to every rule. Let's work with the 99%.
On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 9:07 AM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
> Same. Customer refused to sign the service agreement after the
> install. She was kind of pissed off when we went back and picked up the
> equipment. Oh well.
>
> Mark
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> On Aug 14, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> I don't know about that. We've had people who requested service, and then
> refused to sign our service agreement. No signy. No servicey. Our service
> agreement was pretty short and simple.
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> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 1:01 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
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>> You guys might not sign it, but a homeowner wanting fiber has the choice
>> of a) no fiber or b) sign it....they're going to sign it.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 12:10 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That had like an 8 or 9 dollar price tag?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 9:41 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> They didn’t call for a locate prior to drilling. Scuba divers had to
>>>> dive inside the pipe and weld on a patch from the inside. Quite the
>>>> ordeal. Good thing we had good insurance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2022 8:25 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>>>>
>>>> Ouch
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 8:09 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> One of them was 48” I think and washed out a railroad track... And it
>>>>> was our fault...
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:00 PM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>>>>>
>>>>> I have repaired tons of stuff, bought trees, bought sod, whatever it
>>>>> takes to make the landowner happy. Not really their fault either if they
>>>>> don’t know it is there. Just the cost of doing business. GL takes care
>>>>> of
>>>>> hitting the city water main and washing it all into someone’s basement
>>>>> etc. My crews have hit 4 city water mains and it is no picnic. 2 of them
>>>>> were our fault.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2022 3:32 PM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>>>>>
>>>>> When the attorney feeds back I may update the erosion control. But I'm
>>>>> no taking liability for somebody who chooses not to water. Even if I put
>>>>> sod down it still needs water. I can the soil back in a condition
>>>>> conducive
>>>>> to root growth, but I cant control what the landowner does.
>>>>> I'll add a link to the JULIE website so customer can see what my
>>>>> responsibilities are there. I do think adding that the customer may need
>>>>> to
>>>>> expose their own things that's a good idea.
>>>>> Will be waiting on the attorney for the what I will do's since that
>>>>> can open a whole lot of liabilities.
>>>>> I've read through a bunch of them and they range from pristine
>>>>> restoration all the way to fuck you, pay me.
>>>>> I just dont want to hit some leech field tie in and have to pay for
>>>>> that.
>>>>> I carry more insurance than I need but I prefer to not use it. Most
>>>>> everything I can locate with the utiliguard, and I can repair most
>>>>> anything
>>>>> I hit unknowingly.
>>>>> An example is a nearby guy knicked an unknown LP run to a garage. It
>>>>> leaked half a full tank and he had to pay for it out of pocket. I'd pay it
>>>>> too, I just dont want to be obligated to.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 12:30 PM Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't sign either if I were a homeowner. I think you need to more
>>>>>> clearly define what you will and won't do, and what you can and cannot
>>>>>> reasonably avoid. For example, you can reasonably avoid a private
>>>>>> power run to an out building if the homeowner discloses it's
>>>>>> existence, you should have equipment to locate the exact path/depth.
>>>>>> Other things that are not locatable, what we do is put the
>>>>>> responsibility on the homeowner to locate & expose. We typically have
>>>>>> to do this for drainage lines, dog fence wires etc. And you definitely
>>>>>> do want a disclaimer of liability for hitting something that was not
>>>>>> disclosed and you would have no way to know of it's existence.
>>>>>> Whether that disclaimer would stand up in court is another issue. I
>>>>>> also think telling the homeowner they are responsible for future
>>>>>> erosion control is going too far, your crew should be doing enough
>>>>>> restoration to stabilize the ground and get grass growing again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 11:15 AM Steve Jones <st...@togservice.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > You guys who do this want to review this and tell me what im
>>>>>> missing. Ive sent it to the attorney for review but shes more an estate
>>>>>> attorney, so may be that there are some gotchas im missing. I dont like
>>>>>> that its 2 pages, but I like liability even less.
>>>>>> > This is more for residential, small commercial and WISP/FISP work .
>>>>>> I assume if I get into a bigger drill and bigger work, those contracts
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> address all that.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks in advance
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