Nope.
> On Aug 15, 2022, at 12:19 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
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> Did she ever capitulate?
>
>
> From: Mark Radabaugh <>
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 7:05 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>
> Same. Customer refused to sign the service agreement after the install.
> She was kind of pissed off when we went back and picked up the equipment.
> Oh well.
>
> Mark
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>> On Aug 14, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com <>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don't know about that. We've had people who requested service, and then
>> refused to sign our service agreement. No signy. No servicey. Our service
>> agreement was pretty short and simple.
>>
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>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 1:01 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>> <>> wrote:
>> You guys might not sign it, but a homeowner wanting fiber has the choice of
>> a) no fiber or b) sign it....they're going to sign it.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 12:10 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <>>
>> wrote:
>> That had like an 8 or 9 dollar price tag?
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 9:41 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com <>> wrote:
>> They didn’t call for a locate prior to drilling. Scuba divers had to dive
>> inside the pipe and weld on a patch from the inside. Quite the ordeal.
>> Good thing we had good insurance.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Steve Jones <>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 8:25 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>>
>> Ouch
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 8:09 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com <>> wrote:
>> One of them was 48” I think and washed out a railroad track... And it was
>> our fault...
>>
>> From: Chuck McCown via AF <>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:00 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
>> Cc: Chuck McCown <>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>>
>> I have repaired tons of stuff, bought trees, bought sod, whatever it takes
>> to make the landowner happy. Not really their fault either if they don’t
>> know it is there. Just the cost of doing business. GL takes care of
>> hitting the city water main and washing it all into someone’s basement etc.
>> My crews have hit 4 city water mains and it is no picnic. 2 of them were
>> our fault.
>>
>> From: Steve Jones <>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 3:32 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>>
>> When the attorney feeds back I may update the erosion control. But I'm no
>> taking liability for somebody who chooses not to water. Even if I put sod
>> down it still needs water. I can the soil back in a condition conducive to
>> root growth, but I cant control what the landowner does.
>> I'll add a link to the JULIE website so customer can see what my
>> responsibilities are there. I do think adding that the customer may need to
>> expose their own things that's a good idea.
>> Will be waiting on the attorney for the what I will do's since that can open
>> a whole lot of liabilities.
>> I've read through a bunch of them and they range from pristine restoration
>> all the way to fuck you, pay me.
>> I just dont want to hit some leech field tie in and have to pay for that.
>> I carry more insurance than I need but I prefer to not use it. Most
>> everything I can locate with the utiliguard, and I can repair most anything
>> I hit unknowingly.
>> An example is a nearby guy knicked an unknown LP run to a garage. It leaked
>> half a full tank and he had to pay for it out of pocket. I'd pay it too, I
>> just dont want to be obligated to.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 12:30 PM Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com <>> wrote:
>> I wouldn't sign either if I were a homeowner. I think you need to more
>> clearly define what you will and won't do, and what you can and cannot
>> reasonably avoid. For example, you can reasonably avoid a private
>> power run to an out building if the homeowner discloses it's
>> existence, you should have equipment to locate the exact path/depth.
>> Other things that are not locatable, what we do is put the
>> responsibility on the homeowner to locate & expose. We typically have
>> to do this for drainage lines, dog fence wires etc. And you definitely
>> do want a disclaimer of liability for hitting something that was not
>> disclosed and you would have no way to know of it's existence.
>> Whether that disclaimer would stand up in court is another issue. I
>> also think telling the homeowner they are responsible for future
>> erosion control is going too far, your crew should be doing enough
>> restoration to stabilize the ground and get grass growing again.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 11:15 AM Steve Jones <st...@togservice.com <>> wrote:
>> >
>> > You guys who do this want to review this and tell me what im missing. Ive
>> > sent it to the attorney for review but shes more an estate attorney, so
>> > may be that there are some gotchas im missing. I dont like that its 2
>> > pages, but I like liability even less.
>> > This is more for residential, small commercial and WISP/FISP work . I
>> > assume if I get into a bigger drill and bigger work, those contracts will
>> > address all that.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance
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