Same. Customer refused to sign the service agreement after the install.
She was kind of pissed off when we went back and picked up the equipment. Oh
well.
Mark
> On Aug 14, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I don't know about that. We've had people who requested service, and then
> refused to sign our service agreement. No signy. No servicey. Our service
> agreement was pretty short and simple.
>
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> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 1:01 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
> You guys might not sign it, but a homeowner wanting fiber has the choice of
> a) no fiber or b) sign it....they're going to sign it.
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 12:10 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> That had like an 8 or 9 dollar price tag?
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 9:41 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com
> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
> They didn’t call for a locate prior to drilling. Scuba divers had to dive
> inside the pipe and weld on a patch from the inside. Quite the ordeal. Good
> thing we had good insurance.
>
>
>
> From: Steve Jones <>
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 8:25 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>
> Ouch
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 8:09 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com <>> wrote:
> One of them was 48” I think and washed out a railroad track... And it was
> our fault...
>
> From: Chuck McCown via AF <>
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:00 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
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> I have repaired tons of stuff, bought trees, bought sod, whatever it takes to
> make the landowner happy. Not really their fault either if they don’t know
> it is there. Just the cost of doing business. GL takes care of hitting the
> city water main and washing it all into someone’s basement etc. My crews
> have hit 4 city water mains and it is no picnic. 2 of them were our fault.
>
> From: Steve Jones <>
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 3:32 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review
>
> When the attorney feeds back I may update the erosion control. But I'm no
> taking liability for somebody who chooses not to water. Even if I put sod
> down it still needs water. I can the soil back in a condition conducive to
> root growth, but I cant control what the landowner does.
> I'll add a link to the JULIE website so customer can see what my
> responsibilities are there. I do think adding that the customer may need to
> expose their own things that's a good idea.
> Will be waiting on the attorney for the what I will do's since that can open
> a whole lot of liabilities.
> I've read through a bunch of them and they range from pristine restoration
> all the way to fuck you, pay me.
> I just dont want to hit some leech field tie in and have to pay for that.
> I carry more insurance than I need but I prefer to not use it. Most
> everything I can locate with the utiliguard, and I can repair most anything I
> hit unknowingly.
> An example is a nearby guy knicked an unknown LP run to a garage. It leaked
> half a full tank and he had to pay for it out of pocket. I'd pay it too, I
> just dont want to be obligated to.
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 12:30 PM Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com <>> wrote:
> I wouldn't sign either if I were a homeowner. I think you need to more
> clearly define what you will and won't do, and what you can and cannot
> reasonably avoid. For example, you can reasonably avoid a private
> power run to an out building if the homeowner discloses it's
> existence, you should have equipment to locate the exact path/depth.
> Other things that are not locatable, what we do is put the
> responsibility on the homeowner to locate & expose. We typically have
> to do this for drainage lines, dog fence wires etc. And you definitely
> do want a disclaimer of liability for hitting something that was not
> disclosed and you would have no way to know of it's existence.
> Whether that disclaimer would stand up in court is another issue. I
> also think telling the homeowner they are responsible for future
> erosion control is going too far, your crew should be doing enough
> restoration to stabilize the ground and get grass growing again.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 11:15 AM Steve Jones <st...@togservice.com <>> wrote:
> >
> > You guys who do this want to review this and tell me what im missing. Ive
> > sent it to the attorney for review but shes more an estate attorney, so may
> > be that there are some gotchas im missing. I dont like that its 2 pages,
> > but I like liability even less.
> > This is more for residential, small commercial and WISP/FISP work . I
> > assume if I get into a bigger drill and bigger work, those contracts will
> > address all that.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
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