Several years ago I was working on a rural broadband project. There were still a lot of towns with long range DSL at 1-2 Mbps, and nothing else but satellite or maybe cellular depending which hill you’re on. Depends on what you call Greenfield I guess.
They were sparse areas, and I don’t think anybody would have built them without milk from the state’s teat. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 11:46 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network Well, that's sustainable to build fiber in, anyway. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> Cc: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@go-mtc.com> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:45:09 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network I can't imagine a world where there's a wireline greenfield. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Chuck McCown via AF" <af@af.afmug.com> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> Cc: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@go-mtc.com> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:30:57 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network I seem to have more green field that I can get to and I have never felt a need to overbuild. I find it odd that CATV companies will install coax in these subdivisions but never return to activate it. We love those. From: dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:45 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network Some people will sign up even if you’re higher priced, just because they hate the cable company that much. You can offer higher speed at the same price and you’ll get some more. If you offer higher speed, and also lower price, and also put the effort and money into getting the message out then you get the 30%. It’s not 30% across the board either, in some areas we end up higher than that, but 30% seems to be a safe enough number to plan on. So it certainly helps to undercut them. Internet customers have a lot of momentum. If there’s no compelling reason for them to switch right now then they won’t switch right now just because they’re not thinking about it most of the time. Even if they have a reason to switch they may not even know you’re there, and the cable company has so much advertising the customer will always be aware of them. Even when you build in an unserved area and you’re infinitely better than the satellite or long range DSL options you STILL have to put effort into making the sales because a lot of the people out there made their peace with what they have, and they’re not going to seek you out until something triggers them to do so. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:02 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network Do you have to undercut to get penetration? ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: dmmoff...@gmail.com To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:44:00 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network About 30% We’re intentionally overbuilding Spectrum/Charter, and undercutting them at $50/month vs their $75/month. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 5:36 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <Af@af.afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network Those of you doing fiber, what are you seeing for take-rates in a scenario where you are overlaying a cable network? I'm getting to the point where that may be the direction I have to go. Thanks. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com _____ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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