Brownfield
From: Jason McKemie
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 11:02 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
I consider greenfield a subdivision of any sort that only has end of the line
DSL and/or wireless available.
On Thursday, October 13, 2022, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
I call greenfield, dense new subdivisions where we can get into the power
trenches for free.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:01 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
Where we live there is wireline...., but it was installed in ~~ 1975, and is
_way_ past the rot stage. I would call this area greenfield as long as you can
deal with a population density of about 3 or 4 people per square mile.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 10/13/2022 8:45 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I can't imagine a world where there's a wireline greenfield.
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The Brothers WISP
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From: "Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Cc: "Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:30:57 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
I seem to have more green field that I can get to and I have never felt a
need to overbuild. I find it odd that CATV companies will install coax in
these subdivisions but never return to activate it. We love those.
From: dmmoff...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:45 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
Some people will sign up even if you’re higher priced, just because they
hate the cable company that much.
You can offer higher speed at the same price and you’ll get some more.
If you offer higher speed, and also lower price, and also put the effort
and money into getting the message out then you get the 30%. It’s not 30%
across the board either, in some areas we end up higher than that, but 30%
seems to be a safe enough number to plan on.
So it certainly helps to undercut them. Internet customers have a lot of
momentum. If there’s no compelling reason for them to switch right now then
they won’t switch right now just because they’re not thinking about it most of
the time. Even if they have a reason to switch they may not even know you’re
there, and the cable company has so much advertising the customer will always
be aware of them. Even when you build in an unserved area and you’re
infinitely better than the satellite or long range DSL options you STILL have
to put effort into making the sales because a lot of the people out there made
their peace with what they have, and they’re not going to seek you out until
something triggers them to do so.
From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:02 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
Do you have to undercut to get penetration?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: dmmoff...@gmail.com
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:44:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
About 30%
We’re intentionally overbuilding Spectrum/Charter, and undercutting them at
$50/month vs their $75/month.
From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 5:36 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:Af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
Those of you doing fiber, what are you seeing for take-rates in a scenario
where you are overlaying a cable network? I'm getting to the point where that
may be the direction I have to go.
Thanks.
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