Sure, but even from this distance out, I look another hour or two away and it's 
not much different. 


Towns and subdivisions have coverage from a cable or fiber operator already. 
Not in towns or subdivisions and it isn't worth doing a wireline solution to. 




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From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 2:48:45 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network 


Move more than 60 minutes away from one of the largest cities in the country? 


On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 11:46 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 





I can't imagine a world where there's a wireline greenfield. 




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From: "Chuck McCown via AF" < af@af.afmug.com > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Cc: "Chuck McCown" < ch...@go-mtc.com > 
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:30:57 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network 




I seem to have more green field that I can get to and I have never felt a need 
to overbuild. I find it odd that CATV companies will install coax in these 
subdivisions but never return to activate it. We love those. 




From: dmmoff...@gmail.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:45 AM 
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network 




Some people will sign up even if you’re higher priced, just because they hate 
the cable company that much. 

You can offer higher speed at the same price and you’ll get some more. 

If you offer higher speed, and also lower price, and also put the effort and 
money into getting the message out then you get the 30%. It’s not 30% across 
the board either, in some areas we end up higher than that, but 30% seems to be 
a safe enough number to plan on. 

So it certainly helps to undercut them. Internet customers have a lot of 
momentum. If there’s no compelling reason for them to switch right now then 
they won’t switch right now just because they’re not thinking about it most of 
the time. Even if they have a reason to switch they may not even know you’re 
there, and the cable company has so much advertising the customer will always 
be aware of them. Even when you build in an unserved area and you’re infinitely 
better than the satellite or long range DSL options you STILL have to put 
effort into making the sales because a lot of the people out there made their 
peace with what they have, and they’re not going to seek you out until 
something triggers them to do so. 





From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:02 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network 


Do you have to undercut to get penetration? 



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From: dmmoff...@gmail.com 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:44:00 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network 
About 30% 
We’re intentionally overbuilding Spectrum/Charter, and undercutting them at 
$50/month vs their $75/month. 



From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Jason McKemie 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 5:36 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < Af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network 


Those of you doing fiber, what are you seeing for take-rates in a scenario 
where you are overlaying a cable network? I'm getting to the point where that 
may be the direction I have to go. 



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