I consider greenfield a subdivision of any sort that only has end of the
line DSL and/or wireless available.
On Thursday, October 13, 2022, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
> I call greenfield, dense new subdivisions where we can get into the power
> trenches for free.
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:01 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
>
>
> Where we live there is wireline...., but it was installed in ~~ 1975, and
> is _way_ past the rot stage. I would call this area greenfield as long as
> you can deal with a population density of about 3 or 4 people per square
> mile.
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> bp
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> On 10/13/2022 8:45 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> I can't imagine a world where there's a wireline greenfield.
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> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:30:57 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
>
> I seem to have more green field that I can get to and I have never felt a
> need to overbuild. I find it odd that CATV companies will install coax in
> these subdivisions but never return to activate it. We love those.
>
> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:45 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
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>
> Some people will sign up even if you’re higher priced, just because they
> hate the cable company that much.
>
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>
> You can offer higher speed at the same price and you’ll get some more.
>
>
>
> If you offer higher speed, and also lower price, and also put the effort
> and money into getting the message out then you get the 30%. It’s not 30%
> across the board either, in some areas we end up higher than that, but 30%
> seems to be a safe enough number to plan on.
>
>
>
> So it certainly helps to undercut them. Internet customers have a lot of
> momentum. If there’s no compelling reason for them to switch right now
> then they won’t switch right now just because they’re not thinking about it
> most of the time. Even if they have a reason to switch they may not even
> know you’re there, and the cable company has so much advertising the
> customer will always be aware of them. Even when you build in an unserved
> area and you’re infinitely better than the satellite or long range DSL
> options you STILL have to put effort into making the sales because a lot of
> the people out there made their peace with what they have, and they’re not
> going to seek you out until something triggers them to do so.
>
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> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:02 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
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> Do you have to undercut to get penetration?
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> *From: *dmmoff...@gmail.com
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:44:00 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
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> About 30%
>
> We’re intentionally overbuilding Spectrum/Charter, and undercutting them
> at $50/month vs their $75/month.
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> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2022 5:36 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:Af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
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>
>
> Those of you doing fiber, what are you seeing for take-rates in a scenario
> where you are overlaying a cable network? I'm getting to the point where
> that may be the direction I have to go.
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> Thanks.
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