Where we live there is wireline...., but it was installed in ~~ 1975, and is _way_ past the rot stage. I would call this area greenfield as long as you can deal with a population density of about 3 or 4 people per square mile.

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On 10/13/2022 8:45 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I can't imagine a world where there's a wireline greenfield.



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*From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" <af@af.afmug.com>
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I seem to have more green field that I can get to and I have never felt a need to overbuild.  I find it odd that CATV companies will install coax in these subdivisions but never return to activate it.  We love those.
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Some people will sign up even if you’re higher priced, just because they hate the cable company that much.

You can offer higher speed at the same price and you’ll get some more.

If you offer higher speed, and also lower price, and also put the effort and money into getting the message out then you get the 30%. It’s not 30% across the board either, in some areas we end up higher than that, but 30% seems to be a safe enough number to plan on.

So it certainly helps to undercut them.  Internet customers have a lot of momentum. If there’s no compelling reason for them to switch right now then they won’t switch right now just because they’re not thinking about it most of the time.  Even if they have a reason to switch they may not even know you’re there, and the cable company has so much advertising the customer will always be aware of them.  Even when you build in an unserved area and you’re infinitely better than the satellite or long range DSL options you STILL have to put effort into making the sales because a lot of the people out there made their peace with what they have, and they’re not going to seek you out until something triggers them to do so.

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Do you have to undercut to get penetration?



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*Sent: *Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:44:00 AM
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About 30%

We’re intentionally overbuilding Spectrum/Charter, and undercutting them at $50/month vs their $75/month.

*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2022 5:36 PM
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Those of you doing fiber, what are you seeing for take-rates in a scenario where you are overlaying a cable network?  I'm getting to the point where that may be the direction I have to go.

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