We have a 3.65 450 customer at 6.8 miles at a -62 using a KP dish shooting through a tree, albeit mesquite, but may need to double check your down tilt and how far off you are in regards to the degree of the AP antenna. It's running 8x/8x with 93% efficiency.
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Craig House via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > > Longest shot we have made work is 4.7 with a kP dish. -73 but link tests > are not that great. 83/73 and it is in 4x I'm planning on removing all our > 3.65 450 gear and going with 2.4 450. The power is much better but migration > from FSK 2.4 is a bigger pain > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:14, Ken Hohhof via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >> >> We did a bare SM the other day 0.6 miles –58 and 8X in a 10 MHz channel, >> that tells me we can go a lot farther without a dish, probably 1.5 miles or >> more. Or are you talking about through trees? I have not been impressed >> with performance through trees, even with a dish. But I’m not happy with >> –80 and 4X, I don’t want to eat up all the capacity on such an expensive >> piece of gear with just a few subs. And I don’t want customers calling >> every time the leaves get wet or covered with snow. >> >> At some point I think we’ll see something similar to the Force100 but for >> now it’s a dish or a connectorized SM with a panel. When I asked about a >> Stinger/CLIP type of product, I was told the size at 2.4 or 3.65 GHz get too >> big or else the gain isn’t worth it. >> >> From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af >> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:58 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 pmp450 results - was Dear Cambium >> >> >> We didn't get very far without a dish ; what are you seeing in terms of how >> far you can get before you have a dish? >> Are you using a dish with most, or is there a stinger available or something >> "mid-term" ? >> >> Must be honest, we haven't tried the dish yet. Need to very soon as fall is >> basically here... >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: David Milholen via Af >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:34 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium >> >> Chris, >> We are rockin 3.65 450 AB channels replacing 90% of our 900 subs. Migration >> is taking time due to cap X. >> I took down our first 900AP which was our first aP900 installed last week. >> >> >>> On 9/19/2014 4:34 PM, Christopher Tyler via Af wrote: >>> I love the 450, 450 is awesome, but 90% of our subs are on 900 MHz, what do >>> we do there, where is our upgrade path, what is the replacement for PMP100 >>> in 900 MHz? >>> We have no alternative to 900 for most of our customers where we are, too >>> many hills and trees. We are still deploying 900 MHz radios in large >>> quantities simply because we can't use anything else. Sure would be nice >>> to have an easy way to configure those radios, we (Animal Farm) have only >>> been asking for that feature for the last 8 years, not like they didn't >>> know about it or have the time to figure it out. Now they are giving it to >>> us, but only on a platform where we don't really need it yet. >>> >>> While I understand that PMP100 is somewhat antiquated, Cambium is still >>> making money on it and will continue to make money on it, so why not give >>> us at least some development beyond bug fixes at least until there is a 900 >>> replacement? Why not a 450 in 900 MHz that's using the newer hardware but >>> still only 2x modulation. We would literally buy thousands of them within >>> the next year. >>> >> >> -- >> <Davidmvcf.jpg>