:-( We had to stick with the KP reflector

The WB one had two fatal flaws for the installers, the first being that the
top doesnt allow the j arm to come in from the top, they like to do that
for discrete installs, that was something we could have lived without if it
werent for the housing where the j arm comes in no allowing full downtilt,
I would much rather use WB gear any day.

We are migrating from ubnt to 450, so we had to get other clips, and I
thought they also came with different length arms, but i could be wrong

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Chuck McCown via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:

>   Exact same design as the RCL-2 when it comes to the azimuth and
> elevation adjust.
> Just not understanding, but that is OK.
>
>  *From:* Ken Hohhof via Af <af@afmug.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:30 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 3.65 Oddities
>
>   Yeah, I’m not fond of that.  But my installers didn’t like your latest
> dish anyway, they say it’s too hard to align because tightening down the
> elevation adjustment changes the azimuth.  The RCL-2 didn’t have this
> issue.  Then there’s the odd diameter J-pipe which I believe you’ve fixed.
>
>  *From:* Chuck McCown via Af <af@afmug.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:18 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 3.65 Oddities
>
>   We have a special holder for the 3.65.  But we have lots of radio
> holders for our reflector now.  The list continues to grow.
>
>  *From:* Ken Hohhof via Af <af@afmug.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:15 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 3.65 Oddities
>
>   We’ve been using the regular KP reflector with the 3.65 SM, no special
> claw.  It fits, unlike the old Motorola 27RD which does not.  Am I missing
> something about a special claw?  I assume you are not talking about the KP
> feedhorn which would be used with a connectorized SM.
>
>
>  *From:* Kade Sullivan via Af <af@afmug.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:12 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 3.65 Oddities
>
>  Not that I'm aware of, just a different claw at the end, which may or
> may not change the focal length.
>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:45 PM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>
>> doesnt the kp reflector have a different length arm for the 3.65?
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>>
>>>   My advice to customers on how long to wait before calling – 5 minutes
>>> is too short, 5 days is too long.
>>>
>>> And there are the people who call in “my Internet is slow”.  How slow?
>>> “I’ve been waiting for Google to load for 3 days.”
>>>
>>>  *From:* Matt Jenkins via Af <af@afmug.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:54 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 3.65 Oddities
>>>
>>>  <tongue in cheek>
>>> Like that customer who's Internet went down last week and they figured
>>> it would just automagically come up again without calling in?
>>> </tongue in cheek>
>>>
>>> Matthew Jenkins
>>> SmarterBroadbandmatt@sbbinc.net530.272.4000
>>>
>>> On 09/23/2014 07:44 AM, Andreas Wiatowski via Af wrote:
>>>
>>> I do too...I was just hoping it would automagically go away �;.>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Andreas Wiatowski
>>> Director / CEO
>>>
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>>> x600
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>>> *From: *AFMUG LIST <wlmailhtml:af@afmug.com>
>>> *Reply-To: *AFMUG LIST <wlmailhtml:af@afmug.com>
>>> *Date: *Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:25:09 +0000
>>> *To: *AFMUG LIST <wlmailhtml:af@afmug.com>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 3.65 Oddities
>>>
>>> Is it just me, or do you all see your replies twice?
>>>
>>> When I post, I see my post, then I see it come through again "via AF"
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Kade Sullivan via Af <
>>> wlmailhtml:af@afmug.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> All integrated SMs, all with KP Reflectors.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Glen Waldrop via Af <
>>> wlmailhtml:af@afmug.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A & B hooked to the same polarity on each client?
>>> �
>>> �
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> �
>>> *From:* �Kade Sullivan via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com <af@afmug.com>>
>>> ��
>>> �
>>> *To:* wlmailhtml:af@afmug.com
>>> �
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 9:10 �AM
>>> �
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] PMP450 3.65 �Oddities
>>> �
>>>
>>> �
>>> �
>>> So I have our second 450 3.65 AP up, and every single �AP at this site
>>> is showing a ~10dbi gap between the 2 polarities on the Uplink �side of
>>> things (from the SM's perspective).
>>> �
>>>
>>> �
>>> The strangest part is that the 10db gap seems to go �back and forth
>>> between the A side being the stronger signal and the B �side.� It seems
>>> random, and I have included a shot of each of the link �status pages on
>>> this AP.� All these SMs are in the same general �geographic area,
>>> within 10 degrees of each in relation to the AP.
>>> �
>>>
>>> �
>>> You can see the top SM here actually has the A side �with a better
>>> signal, while the other 4 show a B side with the higher �signal.� What
>>> in the crap is going on here.� Do we have a bad �antenna on the AP?
>>> �
>>>
>>> �
>>> I can't seem to make any sense of this at all.� �All these SMs have
>>> the same KP reflector, and they have all been visited twice �to ensure
>>> they are peaked.
>>> �
>>>
>>> �
>>> I'm at a loss here.
>>> �
>>>
>>> �
>>> Help me AFMUG!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>
>
>



-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

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