To be clear, we don't use something like an APC UPS.  We do a battery array
with a charge controller.

Regards,
Chuck

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Vince West via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:

> Kade,
>
> I can't speak on the fiber, because we have used a few different kinds
> over the builds we have done. My favorite has been bend insensitive fiber.
> It is small and can make the same turns the Ethernet and power can without
> risking a break. It is also really thin and makes for easier movement when
> securing the cable.
>
> In terms of the PacketFlux gear in the air, if the site is done properly
> and grounded, there shouldn't be any problems. I have only had to replace
> two of them since we started building our larger sites out like this. The
> list Gerard gave is missing two items I believe: breakers and fuses. More
> often than not, the fuses on the ground are the ones that go. We have one
> site where our box is 360ft on the tower. This site almost always suffers
> some kind of issue in major lightning storms. It trips a breaker at the
> base. The drive out is 20 minutes and worth while compared to having to
> climb the tower when the storm is over.
>
> We do not use UPSs anymore on the large deployments. The DC box stays on
> the ground because the power line going up the tower is either fused or has
> it's own DC breaker. We also have a site monitor at the base to monitor
> voltage levels on the batteries and we can graph the stats to troubleshoot
> in the future. Because we use a breaker or fuse in our DC system going from
> the top to the bottom, it would be a pain to still have to climb to replace
> a fuse if necessary.
>
> Vince West
> Tower Hand
> Technical Support
> Shelby Broadband
> 148 Citizens Blvd
> Simpsonville, KY 40067
> Phone: 1-888-364-4232
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>
>> Do you guys find that the packetflux gear has a high survival rate up
>> there?  We have a site that needs converted to DC and recabled, and are
>> considering this route.  Our thinking is, why put the dc box at the bottom
>> when we can just put the thing up at the top and run nothing down to the
>> bottom except power.  All our backhauls are half way up the tower, no
>> reason to even have anything at the bottom except the UPS.
>>
>> What type of fiber are you guys using for attaching to the tower?  We
>> will need to run a fiber from 1 level to another on the tower to feed the
>> backhauls to the APs, and are unsure which type fiber cable to look at.
>> Should we use armored fiber and just ground the jacket to the tower on each
>> end, or do we want fiber with no metal jacket so that it's not conductive?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Gerard Dupont III via Af <af@afmug.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Our Top boxes usually contain the following.
>>>
>>> 1x Sitemonitor
>>> 2x GigabitSyncInjectors
>>> 1x Citel DS210-48DC
>>> 2x Traco TCL 060-124 DC Down Convertors -
>>> http://www.tracopower.com/products/tcl-dc.pdf
>>> 1x RB2011
>>> 2x APC PRM4 Surge Chasis
>>> 8x GigEAPC-HV
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerard
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af <af@afmug.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We use this, and solder two legs together.  We send 48v DC up to the
>>>> top and downconvert.  I think we've gone about 450' with this configuration
>>>> (including up the tower and along the cable raceway to the inside of a
>>>> building)  However, that's primarily why we send 48v up and downconvert,
>>>> because of the voltage loss.  Gives very clean 24v power to the equipment.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Portable-Power-Gauge-Conductor/dp/B0076ZT4C2
>>>>
>>>> It would probably be better for me to take a picture of one of our
>>>> boxes.  We are continually building them as we continue our wireless
>>>> upgrades.
>>>>
>>>> I don't remember if Gerard resub'd to this list after it moved, but
>>>> he's the engineer behind the box.  He can give you parts.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via
>>>> Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Chuck,
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you doing any 8-10 gauge runs exceeding 500' ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't seem to find what I need
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We do power and fiber up the tower as our standard...ever since that
>>>>> standard has been used, I don't think we've lost a site yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Matt via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is what we have used for all our CMM units for years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.outdoorspeakerdepot.com/14ga2inspca5.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Outdoor, UV resistant, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Gino Villarini via Af <af@afmug.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Planning on hanging a DC box on the tower
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 30-40w total power
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Cat5 using multiple pairs or 2 conductor cable?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We are inclined on cat 5 for standardization purposes...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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