What would Kevin O'Leary value it at? :-p 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Travis Johnson via Af" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:38:28 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's 

I wasn't responding to get into an argument with you. You are obviously 
free to do whatever you want, and handle your customers however you see 
fit. I was simply explaining from my perspective what I am seeing today, 
and what I saw while building Microserv. You remember, the company that 
was 10x larger than yours and sold to JAB for more, per sub, than any 
other company so far. :) 

I also own part of the fastest growing software companies in Utah. We 
have 20+ full-time developers and current customers like Nike, Google, 
eBay, Nordstroms, Toms, Disney and Vistaprint to name a few. The company 
has been in business for less than a year and already has a valuation of 
$6,000,000 from a national institutional investor that invested a month 
ago. I'm pretty familiar with the software development scene, especially 
in Utah. :) 

Good luck with your app, I hope it works out for you. 

Travis 

On 11/20/2014 2:19 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote: 
> Wrong on both counts. 
> 
> I used to be in software development, so like anything else, it's who you 
> know. 
> I can get this done for a lot less. 
> 
> And having an app for the customer to view and fix or find problems on their 
> own is a differentiator itself. 
> Every one of my customers I've talked to about this has expressed great 
> interest in not having to call in if they can help it. 
> 
> I'm guessing a few of the older generation won't have a phone or care to use 
> an app, they can always call in. 
> 
> But in general it looks like it will greatly reduce support overhead for the 
> ISP and increase customer satisfaction at the same time. 
> 
> I guess time will tell. 
> 
> I already have this underway, parts are developed already, but if someone 
> wants to help out, let me know! 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson via Af 
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:15 PM 
> To: [email protected] 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's 
> 
> Sterling, 
> 
> This sounds like an easy task, but I can tell you as someone that is 
> currently developing software, and is starting December 1 to build a simple 
> iPhone app, software development is very expensive. My app is a pretty 
> simple... easy to use front-end with a cloud based database back-end... yet 
> the quotes I have gotten are $50,000 - $75,000. This is from 3 different 
> development companies all based in Utah. All of them are busy and each has 
> 20+ full-time developers working for them, so they have enough business and 
> must not be totally out of line on their quotes. 
> 
> I said this 10+ years ago, and I'll say it again... customer service is the 
> only thing that makes you different than the big cable and telco companies. 
> Having a live person that can help people troubleshoot and fix issues is the 
> key to keeping people with your service. If you are just going to send them 
> to an app on their phones, you become the same as every other provider... and 
> your service becomes a commodity just like everyone else. 
> 
> Travis 
> 
> On 11/20/2014 1:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote: 
>> BUT, the phones now days are smart enough to know when wifi sucks or goes 
>> out completely. 
>> 
>> They fall back to 3/4G. 
>> 
>> Which is awesome, because it could still talk to the service provider end 
>> and tell the customer the status. 
>> 
>> I think this would work better than a green/red light. 
>> 
>> The phone App would tell you that your service is correct to the house, but 
>> that inside it's not talking. 
>> Then walk the customer through a set of standard fix it routines. 
>> 
>> That would solve most of our calls right there. 
>> 
>> On the back end it just needs to talk to a server process that can get 
>> access to the device on the side of the house. 
>> 
>> The best would be an embedded speed test in the ONT/CPE that could report 
>> back to the App and say they are getting what they are paying for to the 
>> side of their house. And then give them suggestions for fixing their crappy 
>> wifi. 
>> 
>> I bet it wouldn't take much to get this done and working with a few larger 
>> billing systems and equipment platforms, who's with me?? 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:35 PM 
>> To: [email protected] 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's 
>> 
>> Part of the problem is so many customers are 100% WiFi now, so unless you 
>> have a managed router there, you have 2 big problem areas beyond the demarc 
>> - the customer's router and the customer's WiFi. 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Bill Prince via Af 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:04 PM 
>> To: [email protected] 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's 
>> 
>> Linktechs built a tool a couple years ago that ran on the customer's PC 
>> (WIndows only) that would give the customer a "connection health" 
>> indication. It would monitor the local gateway, and give both a green light 
>> for connected, plus a reading on the latency. You go too much beyond that, 
>> and you will get a bunch of false positives when something beyond your local 
>> network is having some kind of issue (we get our share of these). 
>> 
>> I don't think they got much response from it, and I don't think they offer 
>> it any longer. 
>> 
>> bp 
>> <part-15@SkylineBroadbandService> 
>> 
>> On 11/20/2014 9:43 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote: 
>>> What I really want is an integrated system that isn't stuck in the 90's. 
>>> 
>>> I want the customer to have an app on their phone that tells them 
>>> when their network is having issues and why. 
>>> I want it to also remind them to pay their bill and provide a 
>>> lazy/easy way to do that. 
>>> 
>>> I want that same system to have an engineer app that tells us when 
>>> nodes fail and why. 
>>> 
>>> So if a node goes down and it's important, it should show up on my 
>>> phone and I can take action. 
>>> One of those actions would be to message to outage impacted customers 
>>> the ETA to fix etc. 
>>> 
>>> Emails from Cacti don't count. 
>>> 
>> 
> 


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