What devices started using 5 GHz?  Every device I've ever used just went to
2.4 first and stayed there.


Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

> Get better devices?
>
> In my GF's house, it's about 50/50 2.4 and 5. Same SSID.
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> *From: *"Josh Luthman via Af" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Friday, November 21, 2014 1:48:42 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's
>
> I have a Unifi 802.11ac dual band AP in my house.  I had the same SSID
> (Toobs) for both 2.4 and 5 GHz.  Not a single device used 5 GHz.
>
> I've seen changed the SSID of 5 GHz (Toobs 5ghz) and I now know that my
> Xbox one and cell phone will connect to it.  It also works better than 2.4
> (noise thing I'm sure).  It seems to be there's a lack of a solution to
> push things off 2.4 onto 5.  I've heard that Ruckus has some trickery to
> this that may help.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Rory Conaway via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That’s our policy also.  Then we get to manage them.  Need a dual band
>> AirGateway next that’s less than $100.  We are seeing about 40Mbps through
>> the AirGateways which is more than most people need but I’m ready for a
>> 5GHz version.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via
>> Af
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2014 10:16 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's
>>
>>
>>
>> yeah, air routers are so cheap to give the customer its not worth not
>> doing
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Travis Johnson via Af <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is why we just included a "free" WiFi router with all of our
>> installations. It wasn't a separate item on their bill, it was just part of
>> our service. Then we had control of the router, and could actually test
>> clear to the router from our NOC. The customers liked it because they
>> didn't have to worry about the router, and when it failed we just replaced
>> it, no charge.
>>
>> Again... customer service is what wins the day. :)
>>
>> Travis
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/21/2014 9:00 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
>>
>> I really question if customers want a device to help them troubleshoot.
>> More like if we (a bunch of network admins) were the customer, that’s what
>> we’d want.  It’s like the guys on Big Bang Theory trying to imagine what a
>> regular person would want.
>>
>>
>>
>> The hurdle seems to be getting them to pay someone to fix problems in
>> their internal network.  If you can monetize this by selling an onsite
>> support plan, or by dispatching from a separate side of your business that
>> charges for service calls, that is good, as long as you can say this is not
>> an Internet service problem, it is a customer network problem.  Otherwise,
>> refer them to a local computer shop that does house calls.
>>
>>
>>
>> What amazes me is the reluctance to pay us $5/mo for a managed Mikrotik
>> router that comes with free replacement, phone support and onsite support.
>> All of a sudden it’s not so interesting to have us solve the problem for
>> them.  Yet they will go to Best Buy and let the kid talk them into a $200
>> Linksys AC router as the solution to all their problems.  I guess that
>> points back to me being a poor salesman compared to the kid at Best Buy.
>> Probably because I know the managed router is a good deal for the customer,
>> so if they don’t want it, I’m only going to push it so hard.  While Best
>> Buy makes tons more money on a $200 router than they do on a $50 router and
>> doesn’t give a rat’s ass what’s good for the customer, so they sell the
>> hell out of the expensive router.  And people like going to stores and
>> buying cool gadgets.  Maybe I need to rub some “new car smell” on the
>> Mikrotik routers or something.
>>
>>
>>
>> So I guess if your proposed gizmo has a “new car smell” or “latest
>> iPhone” aura to it, people might buy it.  Just make sure that red light
>> doesn’t have false detects, or it will just make people complain their
>> Internet is down because the red light is on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* David via Af <[email protected]>
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2014 9:27 AM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah we put a little thought into ours on that behalf.
>> The customer will have to go to the trouble of signing up for these
>> alerts and it will only show alerts associated with their tower or CPE.
>> Even any scheduled work being done on that site.
>> Alerts for outages on their connection only is all that will be displayed.
>> We are not doing this for anyone on our FSK network only the 450 net.
>> We already have the Portal for billing.
>>
>> On 11/20/2014 11:47 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
>>
>> *An app for my phone?  Yuck
>>
>> *Something that pushes to cutomers letting them know we're having
>> issues?  Yuck
>>
>> *Something that let's the customer verify their particular service is
>> good/not?  That'd be great!
>>
>> *Web portal for billing, easy peasy
>>
>>
>>
>> Why a node fails probably won't be detectable by a machine - in some
>> cases it's difficult for a person to narrow it down (radio, connectors,
>> cables, ethernet, surge, etc) but I'd like to see ideas on this of course.
>>
>>
>>
>> I use/suggest an outgoing message.  IF the customer is having issues and
>> they do call us, they hear we're having issues and hang up.  This means
>> that we're not telling 100 people there are issues when 25 are effecting
>> ending up with 75 calls next month saying we owe them a credit when they
>> had nothing to do with an outage.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> What I really want is an integrated system that isn't stuck in the 90's.
>>
>> I want the customer to have an app on their phone that tells them when
>> their network is having issues and why.
>> I want it to also remind them to pay their bill and provide a lazy/easy
>> way to do that.
>>
>> I want that same system to have an engineer app that tells us when nodes
>> fail and why.
>>
>> So if a node goes down and it's important, it should show up on my phone
>> and I can take action.
>> One of those actions would be to message to outage impacted customers the
>> ETA to fix etc.
>>
>> Emails from Cacti don't count.
>>
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>> --
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>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
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