Mine will too, and won't let go until I kick it over to 2.4Ghz when I go outside. Mix of AP's.
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Eric Muehleisen via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > iOS devices have a mechanism in place that picks the best network between > 2.4 or 5ghz. I don't know specifically how it does it. All my iDevices > including my MBP will choose 5ghz first. > > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > >> iPads are smart enough to do 5 GHz first, that's great! >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <af@afmug.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Currently there's three iPads on 5 Ghz. Stuck on 2.4 now are a printer >>> an airrouter and an iPad. Of course most people are at work now, so tonight >>> it'll be a different mix. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Josh Luthman via Af" <af@afmug.com> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Friday, November 21, 2014 2:28:25 PM >>> >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's >>> >>> What devices started using 5 GHz? Every device I've ever used just went >>> to 2.4 first and stayed there. >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <af@afmug.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Get better devices? >>>> >>>> In my GF's house, it's about 50/50 2.4 and 5. Same SSID. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman via Af" <af@afmug.com> >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent: *Friday, November 21, 2014 1:48:42 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's >>>> >>>> I have a Unifi 802.11ac dual band AP in my house. I had the same SSID >>>> (Toobs) for both 2.4 and 5 GHz. Not a single device used 5 GHz. >>>> >>>> I've seen changed the SSID of 5 GHz (Toobs 5ghz) and I now know that my >>>> Xbox one and cell phone will connect to it. It also works better than 2.4 >>>> (noise thing I'm sure). It seems to be there's a lack of a solution to >>>> push things off 2.4 onto 5. I've heard that Ruckus has some trickery to >>>> this that may help. >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Rory Conaway via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That’s our policy also. Then we get to manage them. Need a dual band >>>>> AirGateway next that’s less than $100. We are seeing about 40Mbps through >>>>> the AirGateways which is more than most people need but I’m ready for a >>>>> 5GHz version. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy >>>>> via Af >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2014 10:16 AM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> yeah, air routers are so cheap to give the customer its not worth not >>>>> doing >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Travis Johnson via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> This is why we just included a "free" WiFi router with all of our >>>>> installations. It wasn't a separate item on their bill, it was just part >>>>> of >>>>> our service. Then we had control of the router, and could actually test >>>>> clear to the router from our NOC. The customers liked it because they >>>>> didn't have to worry about the router, and when it failed we just replaced >>>>> it, no charge. >>>>> >>>>> Again... customer service is what wins the day. :) >>>>> >>>>> Travis >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 11/21/2014 9:00 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I really question if customers want a device to help them >>>>> troubleshoot. More like if we (a bunch of network admins) were the >>>>> customer, that’s what we’d want. It’s like the guys on Big Bang Theory >>>>> trying to imagine what a regular person would want. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The hurdle seems to be getting them to pay someone to fix problems in >>>>> their internal network. If you can monetize this by selling an onsite >>>>> support plan, or by dispatching from a separate side of your business that >>>>> charges for service calls, that is good, as long as you can say this is >>>>> not >>>>> an Internet service problem, it is a customer network problem. Otherwise, >>>>> refer them to a local computer shop that does house calls. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What amazes me is the reluctance to pay us $5/mo for a managed >>>>> Mikrotik router that comes with free replacement, phone support and onsite >>>>> support. All of a sudden it’s not so interesting to have us solve the >>>>> problem for them. Yet they will go to Best Buy and let the kid talk them >>>>> into a $200 Linksys AC router as the solution to all their problems. I >>>>> guess that points back to me being a poor salesman compared to the kid at >>>>> Best Buy. Probably because I know the managed router is a good deal for >>>>> the customer, so if they don’t want it, I’m only going to push it so hard. >>>>> While Best Buy makes tons more money on a $200 router than they do on a >>>>> $50 >>>>> router and doesn’t give a rat’s ass what’s good for the customer, so they >>>>> sell the hell out of the expensive router. And people like going to >>>>> stores >>>>> and buying cool gadgets. Maybe I need to rub some “new car smell” on the >>>>> Mikrotik routers or something. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So I guess if your proposed gizmo has a “new car smell” or “latest >>>>> iPhone” aura to it, people might buy it. Just make sure that red light >>>>> doesn’t have false detects, or it will just make people complain their >>>>> Internet is down because the red light is on. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* David via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2014 9:27 AM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yeah we put a little thought into ours on that behalf. >>>>> The customer will have to go to the trouble of signing up for these >>>>> alerts and it will only show alerts associated with their tower or CPE. >>>>> Even any scheduled work being done on that site. >>>>> Alerts for outages on their connection only is all that will be >>>>> displayed. >>>>> We are not doing this for anyone on our FSK network only the 450 net. >>>>> We already have the Portal for billing. >>>>> >>>>> On 11/20/2014 11:47 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: >>>>> >>>>> *An app for my phone? Yuck >>>>> >>>>> *Something that pushes to cutomers letting them know we're having >>>>> issues? Yuck >>>>> >>>>> *Something that let's the customer verify their particular service is >>>>> good/not? That'd be great! >>>>> >>>>> *Web portal for billing, easy peasy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Why a node fails probably won't be detectable by a machine - in some >>>>> cases it's difficult for a person to narrow it down (radio, connectors, >>>>> cables, ethernet, surge, etc) but I'd like to see ideas on this of course. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I use/suggest an outgoing message. IF the customer is having issues >>>>> and they do call us, they hear we're having issues and hang up. This >>>>> means >>>>> that we're not telling 100 people there are issues when 25 are effecting >>>>> ending up with 75 calls next month saying we owe them a credit when they >>>>> had nothing to do with an outage. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af < >>>>> af@afmug.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What I really want is an integrated system that isn't stuck in the >>>>> 90's. >>>>> >>>>> I want the customer to have an app on their phone that tells them when >>>>> their network is having issues and why. >>>>> I want it to also remind them to pay their bill and provide a >>>>> lazy/easy way to do that. >>>>> >>>>> I want that same system to have an engineer app that tells us when >>>>> nodes fail and why. >>>>> >>>>> So if a node goes down and it's important, it should show up on my >>>>> phone and I can take action. >>>>> One of those actions would be to message to outage impacted customers >>>>> the ETA to fix etc. >>>>> >>>>> Emails from Cacti don't count. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that >>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you >>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do >>>>> not >>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >
