What's your Powercode address?  Who does your SSL cert?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 20, 2015 4:45 PM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I used to use Chrome.  A few versions back they made it so that you cannot
> save passwords for SSL exceptions, and cannot add permanent exceptions.  We
> use SSL on all of our APs, and according to chrome our Billing server cert
> is incorrect, even though we have triple checked the install and no other
> browsers flag it as insecure.  This leaves us tapping away super long and
> complicated passwords (what else would we use??) out in the field in
> Chrome, or we use Firefox and deal with a bit of lag in Powercode.  I find
> that the small amount of lag is far better than constantly trying to tap
> out passwords on a tablet. Ok, not trying to derail this too far OT.  Have
> those of you who are experiencing the lag with EPMP tried another browser?
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> User base is CLEARLY an important key!!!
>>
>> collected from W3Schools' log-files since 2002
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@spitwspots.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
>>>
>>> Chrome (no version attached) has 61% market share
>>>
>>> On January 20, 2015 10:31:25 AM AKST, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  But wait until Windows 10 comes out with the Spartan browser.
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:13 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2&qpcustomd=0
>>>>
>>>> According to that everyone still uses Internet Explorer.  I promise I'm
>>>> as shocked as you are.
>>>>
>>>>  Everyone uses Chrome nowadays.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Example:  Powercode mostly loads and then seems to hang for quite
>>>>> awhile on Firefox, but loads fast on Chrome.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never used EPMP but I have noticed some interfaces lag on one
>>>>>> browser and not on another.  What browser is everyone using when they see
>>>>>> lag?  What browser are those of you who aren't seeing lag using?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Good job of merging 2 threads!  You win one free Internet!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:48 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Yeah but you bought the advantage GUI license, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  *From:* Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:45 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  less than 5 seconds on my iPhone as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I doubt that 4 of my high end machines all have the same problem.
>>>>>>>> The interface takes too long when it first shows up.  Maybe it's 
>>>>>>>> because it
>>>>>>>> gets all the information at once, maybe not.  Don't care.  I want it 
>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>> more smooth and faster.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My phone (Droid Maxx) is one of the most recent models for
>>>>>>>> Android.  The interface is terribly slow and clumsy on that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well if you feel a poor technology choice was the cause, that's
>>>>>>>> fine, but it's just flat out wrong.  I don't want to carry a big fat i7
>>>>>>>> laptop up the tower when I could just simply use my phone.  It works 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> Ubiquiti, FSK Cambium, Tranzeo, Trango, Mikrotik, etc it should only 
>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>> sense the one product with a clumsy interface needs fixed instead of
>>>>>>>> changing my devices that work with the competitors products (as well as
>>>>>>>> different products under their portfolio).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i'm just stating that on all of our computers i've never seen the
>>>>>>>>> ePMP page load slowly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> maybe it's a computer problem and not a device problem, just
>>>>>>>>> trying to bring valid input to the discussion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why are you/others arguing that the speed is just fine?  This
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't even make sense.  There are people with slower laptops that 
>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>> with other modern devices and epmp is the only interface that loads 
>>>>>>>>>> slow.
>>>>>>>>>> There's no point in arguing peoples valid complaints.  Are you 
>>>>>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>>>>>> direct the engineers attention to something else?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Three, maybe four seconds to load the initial screen and then
>>>>>>>>>>> two maybe three seconds to login. As I doubt a screen capture will 
>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>> when I'm RDPed in, I'll record the entire login process when I get 
>>>>>>>>>>> home and
>>>>>>>>>>> post it up on YouTube.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>  *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:26:09 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   Login takes forever.  The first like 10-15 seconds just load
>>>>>>>>>>> and load and load.  Once you're in, it's acceptable in terms of page
>>>>>>>>>>> rendering.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> we use macbook pro's and the ePMP GUI has never been slow for
>>>>>>>>>>>> us.  It was UGLY, but they fixed that with version 2.0 haha.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> not sure why everyone says it's slow tho because we've never
>>>>>>>>>>>> seen it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 cents
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -sean
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, Cambium, this is a little sad.  My Field Laptop, a Lenovo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> S10-3t, Atom Processor with Windows 8.1 cannot load the EPMP WEB 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pages in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> timely manner.  We're talking 40-60 seconds for initial load, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20-30
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seconds per screen refresh/menu change.  Since I'm going to have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to go to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the boss, and tell him that I need a new laptop to do any field
>>>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting for these new radios, what are the minimum system 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> specs for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a machine to view the EPMP Screens?  Unless Cambium is going to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web interface under control as of Yesterday.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They still swear that the GUI was all developed in house and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not purchased (something I still can't believe).  I'd like to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know who the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> engineers/managers are who signed off on that design.  I can only 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> imaging
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that there was a group of guys sitting around the conference 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> table,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> watching the presentation on the GUI on the projector up front, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all nodding
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their heads in agreement, "I think this is a wonderful layout, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the field
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tech's won't mind waiting a couple extra minutes for the pages to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> load so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they can look this pretty!!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that Cambium should step up and get engineers from ALL
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aspects of product development out into the field.  40 seconds 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the page to load is fine when you're sitting in the office, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have the laptop balanced on a stack of firewood in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> freezing rain
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to get to the monitoring page to see why a radio isn't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> linking up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that every WISP on this list would be more than happy to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> host an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> engineer for a day. Heck, even if they go into the parking lot 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and assemble
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it on the tailgate of someone's Pickup, they'll get some idea of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a feeling that if all steps of the Dev process took a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> week in the field, We'd have a radio that had a GUI that responded
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instantly on any device, and radios that assembled and mounted 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unmounted) with 1 gloved hand.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> </rant>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>>
>>
>>
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