What's your Powercode address? Who does your SSL cert? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 20, 2015 4:45 PM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I used to use Chrome. A few versions back they made it so that you cannot > save passwords for SSL exceptions, and cannot add permanent exceptions. We > use SSL on all of our APs, and according to chrome our Billing server cert > is incorrect, even though we have triple checked the install and no other > browsers flag it as insecure. This leaves us tapping away super long and > complicated passwords (what else would we use??) out in the field in > Chrome, or we use Firefox and deal with a bit of lag in Powercode. I find > that the small amount of lag is far better than constantly trying to tap > out passwords on a tablet. Ok, not trying to derail this too far OT. Have > those of you who are experiencing the lag with EPMP tried another browser? > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > >> User base is CLEARLY an important key!!! >> >> collected from W3Schools' log-files since 2002 >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@spitwspots.com> >> wrote: >> >>> http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp >>> >>> Chrome (no version attached) has 61% market share >>> >>> On January 20, 2015 10:31:25 AM AKST, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> But wait until Windows 10 comes out with the Spartan browser. >>>> >>>> *From:* Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:13 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2&qpcustomd=0 >>>> >>>> According to that everyone still uses Internet Explorer. I promise I'm >>>> as shocked as you are. >>>> >>>> Everyone uses Chrome nowadays. >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Example: Powercode mostly loads and then seems to hang for quite >>>>> awhile on Firefox, but loads fast on Chrome. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I've never used EPMP but I have noticed some interfaces lag on one >>>>>> browser and not on another. What browser is everyone using when they see >>>>>> lag? What browser are those of you who aren't seeing lag using? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Good job of merging 2 threads! You win one free Internet! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:48 PM >>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah but you bought the advantage GUI license, right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:45 AM >>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> less than 5 seconds on my iPhone as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Josh Luthman < >>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I doubt that 4 of my high end machines all have the same problem. >>>>>>>> The interface takes too long when it first shows up. Maybe it's >>>>>>>> because it >>>>>>>> gets all the information at once, maybe not. Don't care. I want it >>>>>>>> to be >>>>>>>> more smooth and faster. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My phone (Droid Maxx) is one of the most recent models for >>>>>>>> Android. The interface is terribly slow and clumsy on that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well if you feel a poor technology choice was the cause, that's >>>>>>>> fine, but it's just flat out wrong. I don't want to carry a big fat i7 >>>>>>>> laptop up the tower when I could just simply use my phone. It works >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> Ubiquiti, FSK Cambium, Tranzeo, Trango, Mikrotik, etc it should only >>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>> sense the one product with a clumsy interface needs fixed instead of >>>>>>>> changing my devices that work with the competitors products (as well as >>>>>>>> different products under their portfolio). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> i'm just stating that on all of our computers i've never seen the >>>>>>>>> ePMP page load slowly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> maybe it's a computer problem and not a device problem, just >>>>>>>>> trying to bring valid input to the discussion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Josh Luthman < >>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Why are you/others arguing that the speed is just fine? This >>>>>>>>>> doesn't even make sense. There are people with slower laptops that >>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>> with other modern devices and epmp is the only interface that loads >>>>>>>>>> slow. >>>>>>>>>> There's no point in arguing peoples valid complaints. Are you >>>>>>>>>> trying to >>>>>>>>>> direct the engineers attention to something else? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Three, maybe four seconds to load the initial screen and then >>>>>>>>>>> two maybe three seconds to login. As I doubt a screen capture will >>>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>>> when I'm RDPed in, I'll record the entire login process when I get >>>>>>>>>>> home and >>>>>>>>>>> post it up on YouTube. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>>>>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:26:09 PM >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Login takes forever. The first like 10-15 seconds just load >>>>>>>>>>> and load and load. Once you're in, it's acceptable in terms of page >>>>>>>>>>> rendering. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> we use macbook pro's and the ePMP GUI has never been slow for >>>>>>>>>>>> us. It was UGLY, but they fixed that with version 2.0 haha. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> not sure why everyone says it's slow tho because we've never >>>>>>>>>>>> seen it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2 cents >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -sean >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com >>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, Cambium, this is a little sad. My Field Laptop, a Lenovo >>>>>>>>>>>>> S10-3t, Atom Processor with Windows 8.1 cannot load the EPMP WEB >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pages in a >>>>>>>>>>>>> timely manner. We're talking 40-60 seconds for initial load, and >>>>>>>>>>>>> 20-30 >>>>>>>>>>>>> seconds per screen refresh/menu change. Since I'm going to have >>>>>>>>>>>>> to go to >>>>>>>>>>>>> the boss, and tell him that I need a new laptop to do any field >>>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting for these new radios, what are the minimum system >>>>>>>>>>>>> specs for >>>>>>>>>>>>> a machine to view the EPMP Screens? Unless Cambium is going to >>>>>>>>>>>>> get their >>>>>>>>>>>>> Web interface under control as of Yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> They still swear that the GUI was all developed in house and >>>>>>>>>>>>> not purchased (something I still can't believe). I'd like to >>>>>>>>>>>>> know who the >>>>>>>>>>>>> engineers/managers are who signed off on that design. I can only >>>>>>>>>>>>> imaging >>>>>>>>>>>>> that there was a group of guys sitting around the conference >>>>>>>>>>>>> table, >>>>>>>>>>>>> watching the presentation on the GUI on the projector up front, >>>>>>>>>>>>> all nodding >>>>>>>>>>>>> their heads in agreement, "I think this is a wonderful layout, >>>>>>>>>>>>> the field >>>>>>>>>>>>> tech's won't mind waiting a couple extra minutes for the pages to >>>>>>>>>>>>> load so >>>>>>>>>>>>> they can look this pretty!!" >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that Cambium should step up and get engineers from ALL >>>>>>>>>>>>> aspects of product development out into the field. 40 seconds >>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting for >>>>>>>>>>>>> the page to load is fine when you're sitting in the office, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> not when >>>>>>>>>>>>> you have the laptop balanced on a stack of firewood in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> freezing rain >>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to get to the monitoring page to see why a radio isn't >>>>>>>>>>>>> linking up. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that every WISP on this list would be more than happy to >>>>>>>>>>>>> host an >>>>>>>>>>>>> engineer for a day. Heck, even if they go into the parking lot >>>>>>>>>>>>> and assemble >>>>>>>>>>>>> it on the tailgate of someone's Pickup, they'll get some idea of >>>>>>>>>>>>> what we >>>>>>>>>>>>> experience. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a feeling that if all steps of the Dev process took a >>>>>>>>>>>>> week in the field, We'd have a radio that had a GUI that responded >>>>>>>>>>>>> instantly on any device, and radios that assembled and mounted >>>>>>>>>>>>> (and >>>>>>>>>>>>> unmounted) with 1 gloved hand. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> </rant> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nate >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >> >> >