I used to use Chrome. A few versions back they made it so that you cannot save passwords for SSL exceptions, and cannot add permanent exceptions. We use SSL on all of our APs, and according to chrome our Billing server cert is incorrect, even though we have triple checked the install and no other browsers flag it as insecure. This leaves us tapping away super long and complicated passwords (what else would we use??) out in the field in Chrome, or we use Firefox and deal with a bit of lag in Powercode. I find that the small amount of lag is far better than constantly trying to tap out passwords on a tablet. Ok, not trying to derail this too far OT. Have those of you who are experiencing the lag with EPMP tried another browser?
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > User base is CLEARLY an important key!!! > > collected from W3Schools' log-files since 2002 > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@spitwspots.com> > wrote: > >> http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp >> >> Chrome (no version attached) has 61% market share >> >> On January 20, 2015 10:31:25 AM AKST, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>> >>> But wait until Windows 10 comes out with the Spartan browser. >>> >>> *From:* Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:13 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2&qpcustomd=0 >>> >>> According to that everyone still uses Internet Explorer. I promise I'm >>> as shocked as you are. >>> >>> Everyone uses Chrome nowadays. >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Example: Powercode mostly loads and then seems to hang for quite >>>> awhile on Firefox, but loads fast on Chrome. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've never used EPMP but I have noticed some interfaces lag on one >>>>> browser and not on another. What browser is everyone using when they see >>>>> lag? What browser are those of you who aren't seeing lag using? >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Good job of merging 2 threads! You win one free Internet! >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:48 PM >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah but you bought the advantage GUI license, right? >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:45 AM >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant> >>>>>> >>>>>> less than 5 seconds on my iPhone as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Josh Luthman < >>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I doubt that 4 of my high end machines all have the same problem. >>>>>>> The interface takes too long when it first shows up. Maybe it's >>>>>>> because it >>>>>>> gets all the information at once, maybe not. Don't care. I want it to >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> more smooth and faster. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My phone (Droid Maxx) is one of the most recent models for Android. >>>>>>> The interface is terribly slow and clumsy on that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well if you feel a poor technology choice was the cause, that's >>>>>>> fine, but it's just flat out wrong. I don't want to carry a big fat i7 >>>>>>> laptop up the tower when I could just simply use my phone. It works >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> Ubiquiti, FSK Cambium, Tranzeo, Trango, Mikrotik, etc it should only >>>>>>> make >>>>>>> sense the one product with a clumsy interface needs fixed instead of >>>>>>> changing my devices that work with the competitors products (as well as >>>>>>> different products under their portfolio). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i'm just stating that on all of our computers i've never seen the >>>>>>>> ePMP page load slowly. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> maybe it's a computer problem and not a device problem, just trying >>>>>>>> to bring valid input to the discussion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Josh Luthman < >>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why are you/others arguing that the speed is just fine? This >>>>>>>>> doesn't even make sense. There are people with slower laptops that >>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>> with other modern devices and epmp is the only interface that loads >>>>>>>>> slow. >>>>>>>>> There's no point in arguing peoples valid complaints. Are you trying >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> direct the engineers attention to something else? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Three, maybe four seconds to load the initial screen and then >>>>>>>>>> two maybe three seconds to login. As I doubt a screen capture will >>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>> when I'm RDPed in, I'll record the entire login process when I get >>>>>>>>>> home and >>>>>>>>>> post it up on YouTube. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>>>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:26:09 PM >>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs <rant> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Login takes forever. The first like 10-15 seconds just load >>>>>>>>>> and load and load. Once you're in, it's acceptable in terms of page >>>>>>>>>> rendering. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> we use macbook pro's and the ePMP GUI has never been slow for >>>>>>>>>>> us. It was UGLY, but they fixed that with version 2.0 haha. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> not sure why everyone says it's slow tho because we've never >>>>>>>>>>> seen it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2 cents >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -sean >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, Cambium, this is a little sad. My Field Laptop, a Lenovo >>>>>>>>>>>> S10-3t, Atom Processor with Windows 8.1 cannot load the EPMP WEB >>>>>>>>>>>> Pages in a >>>>>>>>>>>> timely manner. We're talking 40-60 seconds for initial load, and >>>>>>>>>>>> 20-30 >>>>>>>>>>>> seconds per screen refresh/menu change. Since I'm going to have >>>>>>>>>>>> to go to >>>>>>>>>>>> the boss, and tell him that I need a new laptop to do any field >>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting for these new radios, what are the minimum system >>>>>>>>>>>> specs for >>>>>>>>>>>> a machine to view the EPMP Screens? Unless Cambium is going to >>>>>>>>>>>> get their >>>>>>>>>>>> Web interface under control as of Yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> They still swear that the GUI was all developed in house and >>>>>>>>>>>> not purchased (something I still can't believe). I'd like to know >>>>>>>>>>>> who the >>>>>>>>>>>> engineers/managers are who signed off on that design. I can only >>>>>>>>>>>> imaging >>>>>>>>>>>> that there was a group of guys sitting around the conference table, >>>>>>>>>>>> watching the presentation on the GUI on the projector up front, >>>>>>>>>>>> all nodding >>>>>>>>>>>> their heads in agreement, "I think this is a wonderful layout, the >>>>>>>>>>>> field >>>>>>>>>>>> tech's won't mind waiting a couple extra minutes for the pages to >>>>>>>>>>>> load so >>>>>>>>>>>> they can look this pretty!!" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think that Cambium should step up and get engineers from ALL >>>>>>>>>>>> aspects of product development out into the field. 40 seconds >>>>>>>>>>>> waiting for >>>>>>>>>>>> the page to load is fine when you're sitting in the office, but >>>>>>>>>>>> not when >>>>>>>>>>>> you have the laptop balanced on a stack of firewood in the >>>>>>>>>>>> freezing rain >>>>>>>>>>>> trying to get to the monitoring page to see why a radio isn't >>>>>>>>>>>> linking up. >>>>>>>>>>>> I think that every WISP on this list would be more than happy to >>>>>>>>>>>> host an >>>>>>>>>>>> engineer for a day. Heck, even if they go into the parking lot and >>>>>>>>>>>> assemble >>>>>>>>>>>> it on the tailgate of someone's Pickup, they'll get some idea of >>>>>>>>>>>> what we >>>>>>>>>>>> experience. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have a feeling that if all steps of the Dev process took a >>>>>>>>>>>> week in the field, We'd have a radio that had a GUI that responded >>>>>>>>>>>> instantly on any device, and radios that assembled and mounted (and >>>>>>>>>>>> unmounted) with 1 gloved hand. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> </rant> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nate >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> > >
