Assuming we did have the fiber what would be an accurate number for everything needed to hang a bts. Earlier in your comments you said about $275 per cpe?
Sent while mobile > On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:07 AM, Patrick Leary <patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Neighborhood style micro pop would be doable. Not sure the economics would > work though and that's be a lot of backhaul unless you had fiber hung, ala > the cable cos, which could well support a strand-mounted micro pop model. $8k > won't get you there either; that would be too good to be true. > >> On Feb 21, 2015 2:05 AM, "Ryan Ray" <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Also could this be something interesting for a neighbourhood style install? >> Place a BTS nearby and cover 4km and have 400Mb/s to use for ~$8k? Just >> seems too good to be true really. >> >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> How many CPE's can one BTS handle? Can you post a webinar showing a system >>> setup and an overview of the BTS and the CPE? Any special licensing >>> requirements for Canada or the US? Any QoS on board / OOB management? >>> >>> If I wanted to buy today how would I do that? >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Patrick Leary >>>> <patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Yes. Yes, you can: >>>> >>>> Beamwidth of the sectors? Your call TJ. Our preference is Alpha Wireless >>>> brand antennas. Expensive. Very high quality with excellent front to back >>>> ratios. Their 4 port dual pol.dual slant 65 degree antennas roll off >>>> nicely at 3dB and essentially provide a 120 pattern. Wanna see what a >>>> really nice F to B looks like? We like the 65s, because at 18dBi they >>>> maximize power density and, as always, are simply good design because they >>>> minimize the ambient noise they hear.: >>>> <image.png> >>>> >>>> >>>> Max range?: >>>> >>>> Currently our latest LTE rev has its ranging up to 39 km before it losing >>>> timing. At 30 km (18 miles) we can do full modulation with true (as in >>>> Fresnel-based true) LOS. So all day long -75 at 30 km LOS. NLOS" we all >>>> know the only thing in common with our understanding is the inability to >>>> see the other side due to "trees." How many trees, the trajectory, the >>>> tree type, etc. defines the reality. THAT SAID, what we've learned is the >>>> WHATEVER you can do with 900 where YOU are, you can do a tab better in >>>> range with our 3.65 GHz and at much higher capacity. Now that might mean >>>> you hit a -83 with your 900 MHz and we are -91, but even at that I'm doing >>>> over 7 Mbps DL. >>>> >>>> Total per sector throughput?: >>>> >>>> As it ships today, about 100 Mbps in a 20 MHz channel. When both carriers >>>> are active, 200 Mbps. In about 15 months, if connecting in higher mods, >>>> that will double with MU-MIMO, so 400 Mbps per BTS, or 1,200 Mbps in a 3 >>>> BTS tower. >>>> >>>> Msrp or street price aprox?: >>>> >>>> Street price? Maybe about $6,800 per BTS, but that's not the full answer, >>>> which is more complex. I'm happy to do a dedicated one-on-one webinar with >>>> anyone, or all of you. >>>> >>>> Availability? : >>>> >>>> Terrible right now. Our increase in business has hurt availability and our >>>> channels are minimal. All our guys are trying to scale to meet the new >>>> demand, but it's hell catching up. Our largest partner has seen his >>>> business increase over 75% in 3 months. We just brought on ISP Supplies; >>>> they've been great, doing every single thing they said they'd do. They'll >>>> be scaling up shortly. >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 8:26 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Can we get some basic info on this system ? Beamwidth of the sectors ? >>>>> Max range ?, total per sector throughput, msrp or street price aprox? >>>>> Availability? >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 20, 2015 5:11 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> I see I should have paid attention in math class. Lol. I am familiar >>>>>> with radios going down to -125dbm from SCADA work. I had an SA which >>>>>> dug down to -135....it makes sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2015 3:14 PM, "Patrick Leary" <patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> It's just the spec Jaime. Nothing to do with LTE on that front. 4x4 >>>>>>> MIMO adds 3 dB to the uplink. Then, our sensitivity is crazy. We are >>>>>>> -75 at QAM64 5/6. That's about 8dB better than most stuff at the same >>>>>>> mod and coding, so that 8 dB + the 3 dB on the UL due to 4x4 and that's >>>>>>> where much of the NLOS is coming from. The other is power. We are 30 >>>>>>> dBm PER PORT, so 36 dBm in 4x4. That means we can use most any antenna >>>>>>> and get maximum power density. In fact, it'd be rare where you would >>>>>>> not have to turn down the power to meet the FCC's 43 dB EIRP at 20 MHz >>>>>>> in 3.65 GHz. Compare that to those with only 22 dBm per port and only >>>>>>> 2x2, so about 25 dBm max output power. Not a lot of choice there >>>>>>> that'll still let you get even to FCC max. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Jaime Solorza >>>>>>>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> My brain wants to explode...guess I am old school ..never considered >>>>>>>> 3.65 or 5 ghz NLOS frequency. . Sounds exciting. Good luck Patrick... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2015 1:18 PM, "Patrick Leary" >>>>>>>>> <patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Many of you are receiving marketing ads from many companies that will >>>>>>>>> be there at WISP America, all encouraging you to see their wares. We >>>>>>>>> are thrilled to join them and to spend time with you, but instead of >>>>>>>>> shiny marketing, I thought I'd share with you some raw collected >>>>>>>>> quotes from the past few months from the mouths of people >>>>>>>>> experiencing Telrad's COMPACT solution. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We look forward to seeing you there. To borrow the words of a >>>>>>>>> customer, I have a feeling this is gonna be fun. P.S. - All comments >>>>>>>>> below reflect 3.65 GHz at legal power levels. - Patrick, >>>>>>>>> North American Director of BD, Telrad >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. "We got our first LTE BS up to test yesterday. So far, distance >>>>>>>>> and NLOS testing has been impressive. Just for the hell of it, I >>>>>>>>> brought a CPE home, set it on my living room table, it connected >>>>>>>>> right up at -113 and is consistently delivering 20+Mbps throughput. I >>>>>>>>> have a feeling this is gonna be fun. It’s nice to be this excited >>>>>>>>> about a wireless product again...Still sitting on the coffee table, >>>>>>>>> tweaked the signal a little bit, -108 with 10db SNR. Got 36Mbps >>>>>>>>> down/5Mbps Up." - Bryce, Netago >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [Note: Those are RSRP numbers, not RSSI. LTE uses RSRP, as its a more >>>>>>>>> specific measurement drilling into the subcarrier level. To compare >>>>>>>>> to RSSI, just add 30 dB, so -113 RSRP is -83 RSSI.] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2. "I’m blown away by how much better the reception and range is on >>>>>>>>> this system vs the [old] one. I drove around with the CPE laying on >>>>>>>>> my dash and never once dropped the signal from one end of the city to >>>>>>>>> the other." City IT manager in a Texas town. Name and city withheld. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [Note: We do not recommend or advise playing "mobile" with fixed CPE. >>>>>>>>> FCC says that's a no go.] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 3. "There are no red flags." - Nathan Stooke, CEO, Wisper Internet >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 4. "No way. I don't understand how this is working." - Eric Ozrelic, >>>>>>>>> CEO, Webformix >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 5. "Gentlemen: This changes EVERYTHING. I’m dumbstruck- It’s like >>>>>>>>> showing a very cold caveman fire for the first time - I really don’t >>>>>>>>> know how to describe it." - name withheld >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 6. "-53 @ 6 miles - No Line of Sight. Tech is at the home right now >>>>>>>>> and cannot believe Telrad picked up." - Daniel Moore, CEO, Unggoy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 7. "You have all been class acts! The whole team has been awesome." >>>>>>>>> - Eric Flanery, Engineer, First Step Internet >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 8. "I've been in this business for 8 years and I've never seen >>>>>>>>> anything like this." - name withheld >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And I'll close with this pic of a 2.5 mile CPE at -67 and zero LOS. >>>>>>>>> Courtesy of Jorge Santiago, CTO, BridgeNet >>>>>>>>> <image.png> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Patrick Leary >>>>>>>>> Director BD, North America, Telrad >>>>>>>>> 727.501.3735 >>>>>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] >>>>>>>>> patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Patrick Leary >>>>>>> Director BD, North America, Telrad >>>>>>> 727.501.3735 >>>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] >>>>>>> patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Patrick Leary >>>> Director BD, North America, Telrad >>>> 727.501.3735 >>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] >>>> patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
