Ryan, that should be the very worst case on the CPE and that's all in (no caps of course), except for the cable. It even includes the mount bracket, as shown circled here:
[image: Inline image 1] On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Assuming we did have the fiber what would be an accurate number for > everything needed to hang a bts. Earlier in your comments you said about > $275 per cpe? > > Sent while mobile > > > On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:07 AM, Patrick Leary <patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Neighborhood style micro pop would be doable. Not sure the economics would > work though and that's be a lot of backhaul unless you had fiber hung, ala > the cable cos, which could well support a strand-mounted micro pop model. > $8k won't get you there either; that would be too good to be true. > On Feb 21, 2015 2:05 AM, "Ryan Ray" <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Also could this be something interesting for a neighbourhood style >> install? Place a BTS nearby and cover 4km and have 400Mb/s to use for ~$8k? >> Just seems too good to be true really. >> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> How many CPE's can one BTS handle? Can you post a webinar showing a >>> system setup and an overview of the BTS and the CPE? Any special licensing >>> requirements for Canada or the US? Any QoS on board / OOB management? >>> >>> If I wanted to buy today how would I do that? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Patrick Leary < >>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes. Yes, you can: >>>> >>>> Beamwidth of the sectors? Your call TJ. Our preference is Alpha >>>> Wireless brand antennas. Expensive. Very high quality with excellent front >>>> to back ratios. Their 4 port dual pol.dual slant 65 degree antennas roll >>>> off nicely at 3dB and essentially provide a 120 pattern. Wanna see what a >>>> really nice F to B looks like? We like the 65s, because at 18dBi they >>>> maximize power density and, as always, are simply good design because they >>>> minimize the ambient noise they hear.: >>>> <image.png> >>>> >>>> >>>> Max range?: >>>> >>>> Currently our latest LTE rev has its ranging up to 39 km before it >>>> losing timing. At 30 km (18 miles) we can do full modulation with true (as >>>> in Fresnel-based true) LOS. So all day long -75 at 30 km LOS. NLOS" we all >>>> know the only thing in common with our understanding is the inability to >>>> see the other side due to "trees." How many trees, the trajectory, the tree >>>> type, etc. defines the reality. THAT SAID, what we've learned is the >>>> WHATEVER you can do with 900 where YOU are, you can do a tab better in >>>> range with our 3.65 GHz and at much higher capacity. Now that might mean >>>> you hit a -83 with your 900 MHz and we are -91, but even at that I'm doing >>>> over 7 Mbps DL. >>>> >>>> Total per sector throughput?: >>>> >>>> As it ships today, about 100 Mbps in a 20 MHz channel. When both >>>> carriers are active, 200 Mbps. In about 15 months, if connecting in higher >>>> mods, that will double with MU-MIMO, so 400 Mbps per BTS, or 1,200 Mbps in >>>> a 3 BTS tower. >>>> >>>> Msrp or street price aprox?: >>>> >>>> Street price? Maybe about $6,800 per BTS, but that's not the full >>>> answer, which is more complex. I'm happy to do a dedicated one-on-one >>>> webinar with anyone, or all of you. >>>> >>>> Availability? : >>>> >>>> Terrible right now. Our increase in business has hurt availability and >>>> our channels are minimal. All our guys are trying to scale to meet the new >>>> demand, but it's hell catching up. Our largest partner has seen his >>>> business increase over 75% in 3 months. We just brought on ISP Supplies; >>>> they've been great, doing every single thing they said they'd do. They'll >>>> be scaling up shortly. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 8:26 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Can we get some basic info on this system ? Beamwidth of the sectors ? >>>>> Max range ?, total per sector throughput, msrp or street price aprox? >>>>> Availability? >>>>> On Feb 20, 2015 5:11 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I see I should have paid attention in math class. Lol. I am >>>>>> familiar with radios going down to -125dbm from SCADA work. I had an SA >>>>>> which dug down to -135....it makes sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>>> On Feb 20, 2015 3:14 PM, "Patrick Leary" < >>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It's just the spec Jaime. Nothing to do with LTE on that front. 4x4 >>>>>>> MIMO adds 3 dB to the uplink. Then, our sensitivity is crazy. We are >>>>>>> -75 at >>>>>>> QAM64 5/6. That's about 8dB better than most stuff at the same mod and >>>>>>> coding, so that 8 dB + the 3 dB on the UL due to 4x4 and that's where >>>>>>> much >>>>>>> of the NLOS is coming from. The other is power. We are 30 dBm PER PORT, >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> 36 dBm in 4x4. That means we can use most any antenna and get maximum >>>>>>> power >>>>>>> density. In fact, it'd be rare where you would not have to turn down the >>>>>>> power to meet the FCC's 43 dB EIRP at 20 MHz in 3.65 GHz. Compare that >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> those with only 22 dBm per port and only 2x2, so about 25 dBm max output >>>>>>> power. Not a lot of choice there that'll still let you get even to FCC >>>>>>> max. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Jaime Solorza < >>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My brain wants to explode...guess I am old school ..never >>>>>>>> considered 3.65 or 5 ghz NLOS frequency. . Sounds exciting. Good luck >>>>>>>> Patrick... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2015 1:18 PM, "Patrick Leary" < >>>>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Dear Friends,* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Many of you are receiving marketing ads from many companies that >>>>>>>>> will be there at WISP America, all encouraging you to see their >>>>>>>>> wares. We >>>>>>>>> are thrilled to join them and to spend time with you, but instead of >>>>>>>>> shiny >>>>>>>>> marketing, I thought I'd share with you some raw collected quotes >>>>>>>>> from the >>>>>>>>> past few months from the mouths of people experiencing Telrad's >>>>>>>>> COMPACT >>>>>>>>> solution. * >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *We look forward to seeing you there. To borrow the words of a >>>>>>>>> customer, I have a feeling this is gonna be fun. P.S. - All comments >>>>>>>>> below >>>>>>>>> reflect 3.65 GHz at legal power levels. *- Patrick, >>>>>>>>> North American Director of BD, Telrad >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. *"We got our first LTE BS up to test yesterday. So far, >>>>>>>>> distance and NLOS testing has been impressive. Just for the hell of >>>>>>>>> it, I >>>>>>>>> brought a CPE home, set it on my living room table, it connected >>>>>>>>> right up >>>>>>>>> at -113 and is consistently delivering 20+Mbps throughput. I have a >>>>>>>>> feeling >>>>>>>>> this is gonna be fun. It’s nice to be this excited about a wireless >>>>>>>>> product >>>>>>>>> again...Still sitting on the coffee table, tweaked the signal a >>>>>>>>> little bit, >>>>>>>>> -108 with 10db SNR. Got 36Mbps down/5Mbps Up." - *Bryce, Netago >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [Note: Those are RSRP numbers, not RSSI. LTE uses RSRP, as its a >>>>>>>>> more specific measurement drilling into the subcarrier level. To >>>>>>>>> compare to >>>>>>>>> RSSI, just add 30 dB, so -113 RSRP is -83 RSSI.] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2. *"I’m blown away by how much better the reception and range is >>>>>>>>> on this system vs the [old] one. I drove around with the CPE laying >>>>>>>>> on my >>>>>>>>> dash and never once dropped the signal from one end of the city to the >>>>>>>>> other." *City IT manager in a Texas town. Name and city >>>>>>>>> withheld. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [Note: We do not recommend or advise playing "mobile" with fixed >>>>>>>>> CPE. FCC says that's a no go.] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 3. *"There are no red flags." - *Nathan Stooke, CEO, Wisper >>>>>>>>> Internet >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 4. *"No way. I don't understand how this is working." - *Eric >>>>>>>>> Ozrelic, CEO, Webformix >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 5. *"Gentlemen: This changes EVERYTHING. I’m dumbstruck- It’s >>>>>>>>> like showing a very cold caveman fire for the first time - I really >>>>>>>>> don’t >>>>>>>>> know how to describe it." - *name withheld >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 6. *"-53 @ 6 miles - No Line of Sight. Tech is at the home right >>>>>>>>> now and cannot believe Telrad picked up." - *Daniel Moore, CEO, >>>>>>>>> Unggoy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 7. *"You have all been class acts! The whole team has been >>>>>>>>> awesome." - *Eric Flanery, Engineer, First Step Internet >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 8. *"I've been in this business for 8 years and I've never seen >>>>>>>>> anything like this." - *name withheld >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *And I'll close with this pic of a 2.5 mile CPE at -67 and zero >>>>>>>>> LOS. *Courtesy of Jorge Santiago, CTO, BridgeNet >>>>>>>>> <image.png> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Patrick Leary >>>>>>>>> Director BD, North America, Telrad >>>>>>>>> 727.501.3735 >>>>>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] >>>>>>>>> patrick.le...@telrad.com <patrick.le...@telrad.com> [this is my >>>>>>>>> corporate address] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Patrick Leary >>>>>>> Director BD, North America, Telrad >>>>>>> 727.501.3735 >>>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] >>>>>>> patrick.le...@telrad.com <patrick.le...@telrad.com> [this is my >>>>>>> corporate address] >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Patrick Leary >>>> Director BD, North America, Telrad >>>> 727.501.3735 >>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] >>>> patrick.le...@telrad.com <patrick.le...@telrad.com> [this is my >>>> corporate address] >>>> >>> >>> >> -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] patrick.le...@telrad.com <patrick.le...@telrad.com> [this is my corporate address]
