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Jaime Solorza
On Feb 22, 2015 4:24 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Which name?
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> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 21, 2015 8:33:26 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just
> "Powerpointware"?
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> I remember that name
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Feb 21, 2015 9:17 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
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>> Fiber + DC. That's what the big boys do. That's what we should be doing.
>> PoE is unnecessary.
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>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
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>> *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 21, 2015 10:06:12 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just
>> "Powerpointware"?
>>
>> At 100 watts per BTS, how is the power conveyed up the tower?  That is
>> way too much power for any kind of POE, so there must be some special kind
>> of cabling required?  Likewise, there must be an SFP in the BTS for fiber?
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 2/20/2015 8:01 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:
>>
>>  Lots of specific content on this in recent custom webinars. In not good
>> yet communicating the features; they are new to me, like selective
>> frequency scheduling and coordinated multipoint. One thing is for certain,
>> we'll all find out soon enough. So far we are doing better than PMP450s in
>> the same area.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So how does your equipment handle interference? All of the wimax gear I
>>> have seen (including Alvarion) falls flat on its face with a very moderate
>>> amount of interference.
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 20, 2015, Patrick Leary <
>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "AP" is language from the the Wi-Fi world. "BTS" is from the telecom
>>>> world.
>>>>
>>>> Some who build television level gear take umbrage with being
>>>> indentified in the same language as consumer grade Wi-Fi. Our base stations
>>>> have multicore processors. Eight cores actually. And big boy P.A.s.
>>>>
>>>> LTE goes a step further calling base stations "eNodeBs" and CPEs "UEs."
>>>> Use equipment. That smart phone in your pocket is a UE.
>>>>  On Feb 20, 2015 9:34 PM, "Steve D" <bigd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Aka AP.
>>>>>
>>>>> For whatever reason every manufacturer has own name for ap and CPE.  :/
>>>>> On Feb 20, 2015 5:45 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTS?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2015 8:42 PM, "Patrick Leary" <
>>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Yes. Yes, you can:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Beamwidth of the sectors? Your call TJ. Our preference is Alpha
>>>>>>> Wireless brand antennas. Expensive. Very high quality with excellent 
>>>>>>> front
>>>>>>> to back ratios. Their 4 port dual pol.dual slant 65 degree antennas roll
>>>>>>> off nicely at 3dB and essentially provide a 120 pattern. Wanna see what 
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> really nice F to B looks like? We like the 65s, because at 18dBi they
>>>>>>> maximize power density and, as always, are simply good design because 
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> minimize the ambient noise they hear.:
>>>>>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Max range?:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Currently our latest LTE rev has its ranging up to 39 km before it
>>>>>>> losing timing. At 30 km (18 miles) we can do full modulation with true 
>>>>>>> (as
>>>>>>> in Fresnel-based true) LOS. So all day long -75 at 30 km LOS. NLOS" we 
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> know the only thing in common with our understanding is the inability to
>>>>>>> see the other side due to "trees." How many trees, the trajectory, the 
>>>>>>> tree
>>>>>>> type, etc. defines the reality. THAT SAID, what we've learned is the
>>>>>>> WHATEVER you can do with 900 where YOU are, you can do a tab better in
>>>>>>> range with our 3.65 GHz and at much higher capacity. Now that might mean
>>>>>>> you hit a -83 with your 900 MHz and we are -91, but even at that I'm 
>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>> over 7 Mbps DL.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Total per sector throughput?:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  As it ships today, about 100 Mbps in a 20 MHz channel. When both
>>>>>>> carriers are active, 200 Mbps. In about 15 months, if connecting in 
>>>>>>> higher
>>>>>>> mods, that will double with MU-MIMO, so 400 Mbps per BTS, or 1,200 Mbps 
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> a 3 BTS tower.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Msrp or street price aprox?:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Street price? Maybe about $6,800 per BTS, but that's not the full
>>>>>>> answer, which is more complex. I'm happy to do a dedicated one-on-one
>>>>>>> webinar with anyone, or all of you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Availability? :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Terrible right now. Our increase in business has hurt availability
>>>>>>> and our channels are minimal. All our guys are trying to scale to meet 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> new demand, but it's hell catching up. Our largest partner has seen his
>>>>>>> business increase over 75% in 3 months. We just brought on ISP Supplies;
>>>>>>> they've been great, doing every single thing they said they'd do. 
>>>>>>> They'll
>>>>>>> be scaling up shortly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 8:26 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can we get some basic info on this system ? Beamwidth of the
>>>>>>>> sectors ? Max range ?, total per sector throughput, msrp or street 
>>>>>>>> price
>>>>>>>> aprox? Availability?
>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2015 5:11 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I see I should have paid attention in math class.  Lol.  I am
>>>>>>>>> familiar with radios going down to -125dbm from SCADA work.  I had an 
>>>>>>>>> SA
>>>>>>>>> which dug down to -135....it makes sense.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>>>>  On Feb 20, 2015 3:14 PM, "Patrick Leary" <
>>>>>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's just the spec Jaime. Nothing to do with LTE on that front.
>>>>>>>>>> 4x4 MIMO adds 3 dB to the uplink. Then, our sensitivity is crazy. We 
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> -75 at QAM64 5/6. That's about 8dB better than most stuff at the 
>>>>>>>>>> same mod
>>>>>>>>>> and coding, so that 8 dB + the 3 dB on the UL due to 4x4 and that's 
>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>> much of the NLOS is coming from. The other is power. We are 30 dBm 
>>>>>>>>>> PER
>>>>>>>>>> PORT, so 36 dBm in 4x4. That means we can use most any antenna and 
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> maximum power density. In fact, it'd be rare where you would not 
>>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>>> turn down the power to meet the FCC's 43 dB EIRP at 20 MHz in 3.65 
>>>>>>>>>> GHz.
>>>>>>>>>> Compare that to those with only 22 dBm per port and only 2x2, so 
>>>>>>>>>> about 25
>>>>>>>>>> dBm max output power. Not a lot of choice there that'll still let 
>>>>>>>>>> you get
>>>>>>>>>> even to FCC max.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>>>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My brain wants to explode...guess I am old school ..never
>>>>>>>>>>> considered 3.65 or 5 ghz NLOS frequency. .  Sounds exciting.  Good 
>>>>>>>>>>> luck
>>>>>>>>>>> Patrick...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>>>>>>   On Feb 20, 2015 1:18 PM, "Patrick Leary" <
>>>>>>>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  *Dear Friends,*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  *Many of you are receiving marketing ads from many companies
>>>>>>>>>>>> that will be there at WISP America, all encouraging you to see 
>>>>>>>>>>>> their wares.
>>>>>>>>>>>> We are thrilled to join them and to spend time with you, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>> shiny marketing, I thought I'd share with you some raw collected 
>>>>>>>>>>>> quotes
>>>>>>>>>>>> from the past few months from the mouths of people experiencing 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Telrad's
>>>>>>>>>>>> COMPACT solution. *
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   *We look forward to seeing you there. To borrow the words of
>>>>>>>>>>>> a customer, I have a feeling this is gonna be fun. P.S. - All 
>>>>>>>>>>>> comments
>>>>>>>>>>>> below reflect 3.65 GHz at legal power levels.             *-
>>>>>>>>>>>> Patrick, North American Director of BD, Telrad
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  1. *"We got our first LTE BS up to test yesterday. So far,
>>>>>>>>>>>> distance and NLOS testing has been impressive. Just for the hell 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of it, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> brought a CPE home, set it on my living room table, it connected 
>>>>>>>>>>>> right up
>>>>>>>>>>>> at -113 and is consistently delivering 20+Mbps throughput. I have 
>>>>>>>>>>>> a feeling
>>>>>>>>>>>> this is gonna be fun. It’s nice to be this excited about a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wireless product
>>>>>>>>>>>> again...Still sitting on the coffee table, tweaked the signal a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> little bit,
>>>>>>>>>>>> -108 with 10db SNR. Got 36Mbps down/5Mbps Up." - *Bryce, Netago
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  [Note: Those are RSRP numbers, not RSSI. LTE uses RSRP, as
>>>>>>>>>>>> its a more specific measurement drilling into the subcarrier 
>>>>>>>>>>>> level. To
>>>>>>>>>>>> compare to RSSI, just add 30 dB, so -113 RSRP is -83 RSSI.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  2. *"I’m blown away by how much better the reception and
>>>>>>>>>>>> range is on this system vs the [old] one.  I drove around with the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> CPE
>>>>>>>>>>>> laying on my dash and never once dropped the signal from one end 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> city to the other." *City IT manager in a Texas town. Name and
>>>>>>>>>>>> city withheld.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  [Note: We do not recommend or advise playing "mobile" with
>>>>>>>>>>>> fixed CPE. FCC says that's a no go.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. *"There are no red flags." - *Nathan Stooke, CEO, Wisper
>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. *"No way. I don't understand how this is working." - *Eric
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ozrelic, CEO, Webformix
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. *"Gentlemen: This changes EVERYTHING. I’m dumbstruck- It’s
>>>>>>>>>>>> like showing a very cold caveman fire for the first time - I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> really don’t
>>>>>>>>>>>> know how to describe it." - *name withheld
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. *"-53 @ 6 miles - No Line of Sight. Tech is at the home
>>>>>>>>>>>> right now and cannot believe Telrad picked up." - *Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>>> Moore, CEO, Unggoy
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. *"You have all been class acts!  The whole team has been
>>>>>>>>>>>> awesome." - *Eric Flanery, Engineer, First Step Internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 8. *"I've been in this business for 8 years and I've never
>>>>>>>>>>>> seen anything like this." - *name withheld
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *And I'll close with this pic of a 2.5 mile CPE at -67 and zero
>>>>>>>>>>>> LOS. *Courtesy of Jorge Santiago, CTO, BridgeNet
>>>>>>>>>>>>  [image: Inline image 3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   Patrick Leary
>>>>>>>>>>>> Director BD, North America, Telrad
>>>>>>>>>>>> 727.501.3735
>>>>>>>>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG]
>>>>>>>>>>>> patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>  Patrick Leary
>>>>>>>>>> Director BD, North America, Telrad
>>>>>>>>>> 727.501.3735
>>>>>>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG]
>>>>>>>>>> patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>  Patrick Leary
>>>>>>> Director BD, North America, Telrad
>>>>>>> 727.501.3735
>>>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG]
>>>>>>> patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>  Patrick Leary
>> Director BD, North America, Telrad
>> 727.501.3735
>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG]
>> patrick.le...@telrad.com <patrick.le...@telrad.com> [this is my
>> corporate address]
>>
>>
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