Microwavebypass Jaime Solorza On Feb 22, 2015 4:24 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> Which name? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com> > *Sent: *Saturday, February 21, 2015 8:33:26 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just > "Powerpointware"? > > I remember that name > > Jaime Solorza > On Feb 21, 2015 9:17 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> Fiber + DC. That's what the big boys do. That's what we should be doing. >> PoE is unnecessary. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Saturday, February 21, 2015 10:06:12 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just >> "Powerpointware"? >> >> At 100 watts per BTS, how is the power conveyed up the tower? That is >> way too much power for any kind of POE, so there must be some special kind >> of cabling required? Likewise, there must be an SFP in the BTS for fiber? >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> On 2/20/2015 8:01 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: >> >> Lots of specific content on this in recent custom webinars. In not good >> yet communicating the features; they are new to me, like selective >> frequency scheduling and coordinated multipoint. One thing is for certain, >> we'll all find out soon enough. So far we are doing better than PMP450s in >> the same area. >> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Jason McKemie < >> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >> >>> So how does your equipment handle interference? All of the wimax gear I >>> have seen (including Alvarion) falls flat on its face with a very moderate >>> amount of interference. >>> >>> On Friday, February 20, 2015, Patrick Leary < >>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "AP" is language from the the Wi-Fi world. "BTS" is from the telecom >>>> world. >>>> >>>> Some who build television level gear take umbrage with being >>>> indentified in the same language as consumer grade Wi-Fi. Our base stations >>>> have multicore processors. Eight cores actually. And big boy P.A.s. >>>> >>>> LTE goes a step further calling base stations "eNodeBs" and CPEs "UEs." >>>> Use equipment. That smart phone in your pocket is a UE. >>>> On Feb 20, 2015 9:34 PM, "Steve D" <bigd...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Aka AP. >>>>> >>>>> For whatever reason every manufacturer has own name for ap and CPE. :/ >>>>> On Feb 20, 2015 5:45 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> BTS? >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> On Feb 20, 2015 8:42 PM, "Patrick Leary" < >>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes. Yes, you can: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Beamwidth of the sectors? Your call TJ. Our preference is Alpha >>>>>>> Wireless brand antennas. Expensive. Very high quality with excellent >>>>>>> front >>>>>>> to back ratios. Their 4 port dual pol.dual slant 65 degree antennas roll >>>>>>> off nicely at 3dB and essentially provide a 120 pattern. Wanna see what >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> really nice F to B looks like? We like the 65s, because at 18dBi they >>>>>>> maximize power density and, as always, are simply good design because >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> minimize the ambient noise they hear.: >>>>>>> [image: Inline image 1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Max range?: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Currently our latest LTE rev has its ranging up to 39 km before it >>>>>>> losing timing. At 30 km (18 miles) we can do full modulation with true >>>>>>> (as >>>>>>> in Fresnel-based true) LOS. So all day long -75 at 30 km LOS. NLOS" we >>>>>>> all >>>>>>> know the only thing in common with our understanding is the inability to >>>>>>> see the other side due to "trees." How many trees, the trajectory, the >>>>>>> tree >>>>>>> type, etc. defines the reality. THAT SAID, what we've learned is the >>>>>>> WHATEVER you can do with 900 where YOU are, you can do a tab better in >>>>>>> range with our 3.65 GHz and at much higher capacity. Now that might mean >>>>>>> you hit a -83 with your 900 MHz and we are -91, but even at that I'm >>>>>>> doing >>>>>>> over 7 Mbps DL. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Total per sector throughput?: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As it ships today, about 100 Mbps in a 20 MHz channel. When both >>>>>>> carriers are active, 200 Mbps. In about 15 months, if connecting in >>>>>>> higher >>>>>>> mods, that will double with MU-MIMO, so 400 Mbps per BTS, or 1,200 Mbps >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> a 3 BTS tower. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Msrp or street price aprox?: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Street price? Maybe about $6,800 per BTS, but that's not the full >>>>>>> answer, which is more complex. I'm happy to do a dedicated one-on-one >>>>>>> webinar with anyone, or all of you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Availability? : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Terrible right now. Our increase in business has hurt availability >>>>>>> and our channels are minimal. All our guys are trying to scale to meet >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> new demand, but it's hell catching up. Our largest partner has seen his >>>>>>> business increase over 75% in 3 months. We just brought on ISP Supplies; >>>>>>> they've been great, doing every single thing they said they'd do. >>>>>>> They'll >>>>>>> be scaling up shortly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 8:26 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can we get some basic info on this system ? Beamwidth of the >>>>>>>> sectors ? Max range ?, total per sector throughput, msrp or street >>>>>>>> price >>>>>>>> aprox? Availability? >>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2015 5:11 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I see I should have paid attention in math class. Lol. I am >>>>>>>>> familiar with radios going down to -125dbm from SCADA work. I had an >>>>>>>>> SA >>>>>>>>> which dug down to -135....it makes sense. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2015 3:14 PM, "Patrick Leary" < >>>>>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It's just the spec Jaime. Nothing to do with LTE on that front. >>>>>>>>>> 4x4 MIMO adds 3 dB to the uplink. Then, our sensitivity is crazy. We >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> -75 at QAM64 5/6. That's about 8dB better than most stuff at the >>>>>>>>>> same mod >>>>>>>>>> and coding, so that 8 dB + the 3 dB on the UL due to 4x4 and that's >>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>> much of the NLOS is coming from. The other is power. We are 30 dBm >>>>>>>>>> PER >>>>>>>>>> PORT, so 36 dBm in 4x4. That means we can use most any antenna and >>>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>>> maximum power density. In fact, it'd be rare where you would not >>>>>>>>>> have to >>>>>>>>>> turn down the power to meet the FCC's 43 dB EIRP at 20 MHz in 3.65 >>>>>>>>>> GHz. >>>>>>>>>> Compare that to those with only 22 dBm per port and only 2x2, so >>>>>>>>>> about 25 >>>>>>>>>> dBm max output power. Not a lot of choice there that'll still let >>>>>>>>>> you get >>>>>>>>>> even to FCC max. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Jaime Solorza < >>>>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My brain wants to explode...guess I am old school ..never >>>>>>>>>>> considered 3.65 or 5 ghz NLOS frequency. . Sounds exciting. Good >>>>>>>>>>> luck >>>>>>>>>>> Patrick... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2015 1:18 PM, "Patrick Leary" < >>>>>>>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Dear Friends,* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Many of you are receiving marketing ads from many companies >>>>>>>>>>>> that will be there at WISP America, all encouraging you to see >>>>>>>>>>>> their wares. >>>>>>>>>>>> We are thrilled to join them and to spend time with you, but >>>>>>>>>>>> instead of >>>>>>>>>>>> shiny marketing, I thought I'd share with you some raw collected >>>>>>>>>>>> quotes >>>>>>>>>>>> from the past few months from the mouths of people experiencing >>>>>>>>>>>> Telrad's >>>>>>>>>>>> COMPACT solution. * >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *We look forward to seeing you there. To borrow the words of >>>>>>>>>>>> a customer, I have a feeling this is gonna be fun. P.S. - All >>>>>>>>>>>> comments >>>>>>>>>>>> below reflect 3.65 GHz at legal power levels. *- >>>>>>>>>>>> Patrick, North American Director of BD, Telrad >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. *"We got our first LTE BS up to test yesterday. So far, >>>>>>>>>>>> distance and NLOS testing has been impressive. Just for the hell >>>>>>>>>>>> of it, I >>>>>>>>>>>> brought a CPE home, set it on my living room table, it connected >>>>>>>>>>>> right up >>>>>>>>>>>> at -113 and is consistently delivering 20+Mbps throughput. I have >>>>>>>>>>>> a feeling >>>>>>>>>>>> this is gonna be fun. It’s nice to be this excited about a >>>>>>>>>>>> wireless product >>>>>>>>>>>> again...Still sitting on the coffee table, tweaked the signal a >>>>>>>>>>>> little bit, >>>>>>>>>>>> -108 with 10db SNR. Got 36Mbps down/5Mbps Up." - *Bryce, Netago >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [Note: Those are RSRP numbers, not RSSI. LTE uses RSRP, as >>>>>>>>>>>> its a more specific measurement drilling into the subcarrier >>>>>>>>>>>> level. To >>>>>>>>>>>> compare to RSSI, just add 30 dB, so -113 RSRP is -83 RSSI.] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. *"I’m blown away by how much better the reception and >>>>>>>>>>>> range is on this system vs the [old] one. I drove around with the >>>>>>>>>>>> CPE >>>>>>>>>>>> laying on my dash and never once dropped the signal from one end >>>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>>> city to the other." *City IT manager in a Texas town. Name and >>>>>>>>>>>> city withheld. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [Note: We do not recommend or advise playing "mobile" with >>>>>>>>>>>> fixed CPE. FCC says that's a no go.] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. *"There are no red flags." - *Nathan Stooke, CEO, Wisper >>>>>>>>>>>> Internet >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. *"No way. I don't understand how this is working." - *Eric >>>>>>>>>>>> Ozrelic, CEO, Webformix >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 5. *"Gentlemen: This changes EVERYTHING. I’m dumbstruck- It’s >>>>>>>>>>>> like showing a very cold caveman fire for the first time - I >>>>>>>>>>>> really don’t >>>>>>>>>>>> know how to describe it." - *name withheld >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 6. *"-53 @ 6 miles - No Line of Sight. Tech is at the home >>>>>>>>>>>> right now and cannot believe Telrad picked up." - *Daniel >>>>>>>>>>>> Moore, CEO, Unggoy >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 7. *"You have all been class acts! The whole team has been >>>>>>>>>>>> awesome." - *Eric Flanery, Engineer, First Step Internet >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 8. *"I've been in this business for 8 years and I've never >>>>>>>>>>>> seen anything like this." - *name withheld >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *And I'll close with this pic of a 2.5 mile CPE at -67 and zero >>>>>>>>>>>> LOS. *Courtesy of Jorge Santiago, CTO, BridgeNet >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Inline image 3] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Patrick Leary >>>>>>>>>>>> Director BD, North America, Telrad >>>>>>>>>>>> 727.501.3735 >>>>>>>>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] >>>>>>>>>>>> patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Patrick Leary >>>>>>>>>> Director BD, North America, Telrad >>>>>>>>>> 727.501.3735 >>>>>>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] >>>>>>>>>> patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Patrick Leary >>>>>>> Director BD, North America, Telrad >>>>>>> 727.501.3735 >>>>>>> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] >>>>>>> patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] >>>>>>> >>>>>> >> >> >> -- >> Patrick Leary >> Director BD, North America, Telrad >> 727.501.3735 >> patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] >> patrick.le...@telrad.com <patrick.le...@telrad.com> [this is my >> corporate address] >> >> >> >> >
