Is there a throughput penalty for that re-use? On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> wrote:
> Re-use of 1 is possible. > > > > *Patrick Leary* > > *M* 727.501.3735 > > <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 11:20 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > > > > Is there frequency re-use with a 3 BTS setup? If there is re-use, what's > the penalty? > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > 3x 65s for 360* coverage. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > [image: Image removed by sender.] <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[image: > Image removed by sender.] > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[image: > Image removed by sender.] > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[image: > Image removed by sender.] <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, March 3, 2015 9:07:51 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > > Is there a 90 degree sector or are you using 65 degree sectors in a 4 BTS > cluster? > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> wrote: > > Only 2 models, the 3.65 (actually 3.4-3.7) COMPACT 1000 or the 2.x (2.3 > and 2.5) COMPACT 3000. I included the 3.65 version. The 2.5 is all the > same, save for the BTS price, which is about $5k higher (but 40 dBm per > port and 43 pounds of brute power, compared to the 18 pound COMPACT 1000) > > > > *Patrick Leary* > > *M* 727.501.3735 > > <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:36 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > > > > Which base station are you quoting, and what are the basic differences > between the models? > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> wrote: > > Think of all the EPC options (and there are 3 forms) as shells: > > > > 1 is an shell embedded as a piece of software inside EACH BTS...a total > one box solution (we can do that since we are a SDR). > > 1 is a shell that's a small (1/2U) appliance supporting up to 10k subs and > 2 gigs. These are stackable and with our NPV option is infinitely stackable. > > > > Into each shell option you plug in ONLY the functionality you need: > > > > Connecting to an external Radius? Buy that module. Don't need to? Don't > get it. > > If not above, then doing MAC level authentication instead? Buy the iHSSS > module. > > PCRF module. Doing service flows and dedicated bearers? Get that. Don't, > then don't. > > Need Layer 2, get that. Don't? Dont. > > > > These modules are in price relative to the version of EPC (baby, momma or > papa bear size). > > > > *Patrick Leary* > > *M* 727.501.3735 > > <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:23 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > > > > Never mind, I see that now. How much is the 50 user license? > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > wrote: > > Is the 50 user limit just a guideline or a software limitation? > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> wrote: > > One BTS, included embedded EPC with MAC level authentication (cheapest > option) supporting up to 50 clients. Antenna could be swapped for any > other. NOTE: this exclude any NMS pieces, but you could just connect over > Telnet or direct connect. This would be the BAREST of bones, but there it > is. That's still LTE and about 100 Mbps with killer NLOS. > > > > Includes: > > > > 735270 > > CMP.XT-BS-3.4-3.7 > > 1 > > 715773 > > LTE COMPACT SW License > > 1 > > 700258 > > BMAX-4M-GPS > > 1 > > 300736 > > ANT 3.3-3.8GHz,18 dBi, 65deg, 4ports > (RF cables NOT included) > > 1 > > 715620 > > BreezeWay-1010-50 > (per Compact HW license) > > 1 > > 715621 > > BreezeWay-1010-iHSS-50 > (50 subs. license) > > 1 > > SLA > > 1 Year SLA > > 1 > > > > > > *Patrick Leary* > > *M* 727.501.3735 > > <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Patrick Leary > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:08 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > > > > No, could be much less. Give me a minute... > > > > *Patrick Leary* > > *M* 727.501.3735 > > <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:05 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > > > > Probably 20k to start. Quality over quantity. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mar 3, 2015 8:56 PM, "John Woodfield" <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz> wrote: > > Patrick, > > > > I haven't had time to read through all this emails. Can you summarize what > the lowest cost get up and running on a tower is so I can consider this > further along with cost per sub? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > John Woodfield, President > > Delmarva WiFi Inc. > > 410-870-WiFi > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Patrick Leary" <patrick.le...@telrad.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:41pm > To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > > Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a > gimmick. The hardware is what it is, and this hardware is expensive. 30dBm > per port. 4 tx/4rx. Power is expensive. The highest quality DSPs on the > market. not consumer grade stuff with the sensitivity of your in home Wi-Fi > router. We build our own phy from the ground up too, our own ATPC > algorithms too. > > > > On the software, we do that though -- enabling modularity and scale as you > need to. I think I need to do a dedicated webinar to this community to walk > you guys (or those inclined) through it (any takers?). I do not think we > can be a solution that makes sense where you only have 15 clients. That's > the blunt truth. Unless you are doing 50 Mbps customers, I am not your > micropop (but I can do that in some modest scale). That said, I wonder > where that 15 number comes from? Can you please explain on what > architecture that is based? Range? Height? Etc. If it is based on a > micropop and even then on what just that pop can see, I'd say that's likely > a model invented out of necessity due to the poor performance of the system > you are using. > > > > I had a guy on a call today. He zoomed me in on Google Earth to his "NLOS" > area. Farmland with wind breaks and shade trees for the homes. He is at > 400' and can't connect squat behind those breaks. In my world, that's LOS > all the way, even at 150 ft. It is total garbage that so many systems to > can't deal with that and you've all been fed that that is "normal." It is > not. It is just gear with terrible specs where the only R&D is at the > software level, and even that is scant. ....You do not have NLOS problems. > You have equipment problems. How such a product ever was allowed to go to > market as a "solution" for rural broadband is, to me, cynical and > reflective of playing a market to skim opportunistic dollars from a market > segment that sometimes seems to embrace abuse. Sort of like the poor 700 > MHz owners who got sucked in to buying 20 year old Marconi WipLL repackaged > as a 700 MHz "solution" because all there was to buy. Then vendors do that > crap and THEN, THEN tell you there's no backward compatibility when they > come out with something new? > > > > WISPs. Sometimes you guys drive me nuts. You are like cheerleaders that > love to date the quarterbacks who abuse you. That is like selling a car > that falls apart once you leave residential streets. None of you should > ever have accepted these golf carts to run your fleets. Sometimes, cheap is > just cheap. > > > > Boy, I'm gonna hear it from my vendor peers, but this ain't a game or just > a job for me. I damn sure hope it ain't that for you either. > > > > *Patrick Leary* > > *M* 727.501.3735 > > <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:08 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > > > > Sort of off topic, but what would be the smallest AP we could get? > > I'm thinking about using this system on a few of my towers to make sure we > never leave without a new customer, but I serve a very rural area. > > I have some towers with 15 clients. > > Is an omni + GPS sync or narrow channel out of the question? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Patrick Leary > > *To:* tel...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com > > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:42 PM > > *Subject:* [AFMUG] New feedback > > > > This is an interesting bit of commentary from one of our new customers. If > he wishes to identify himself, he will.... > > > > *Patrick Leary* > > *M* 727.501.3735 > > <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > > > > > > *From:* > > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:31 AM > *To:* Patrick Leary; Nick Dewar > *Subject:* Interesting Statistic > > > > "Patrick / Nick – > > > > Our Director of Operations, which you both met in St Louis, sent out an > interesting email to our staff this evening. In February with only 20 > working days we completed 40 installs with one technician... This is only > icing on the cake, especially since we are onboarding two more techs... I > ran some additional numbers and found that out of the “Telrad” > installations that we scheduled, 100 % were successful both of these > months. This is a game changer, and it proves that we can eliminate the > need to waste further time with the dreaded site surveys. Our success is > not without the help of Telrad’s Compact solution. Truly amazing and > inspiring, excited for our aggressive expansion this spring/summer/fall. I > cannot wait to have hundreds of these damn things in the air. > > > > Excited and thankful to be a part of the LTE Beta, and am thankful for the > “Holy Grail” email that introduced us to the product...." > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > ************************************************************************************ > >
