> Quite not the case. Ever price typical LTE? And our licenses you own once > first bought, with no annual renewals.
Thought there was an annual license fee to get firmware updates etc? > > > > Patrick Leary > > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 11:25 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > > > > The sauce better be really really good with all of those licenses. Seems like > u have a license for just about everything ? :) > > On Mar 3, 2015 8:20 PM, "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > wrote: > > Is there frequency re-use with a 3 BTS setup? If there is re-use, what's the > penalty? > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > 3x 65s for 360* coverage. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ________________________________ > > From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 9:07:51 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > > Is there a 90 degree sector or are you using 65 degree sectors in a 4 BTS > cluster? > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> wrote: > > Only 2 models, the 3.65 (actually 3.4-3.7) COMPACT 1000 or the 2.x (2.3 and > 2.5) COMPACT 3000. I included the 3.65 version. The 2.5 is all the same, save > for the BTS price, which is about $5k higher (but 40 dBm per port and 43 > pounds of brute power, compared to the 18 pound COMPACT 1000) > > > > Patrick Leary > > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:36 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > > > > Which base station are you quoting, and what are the basic differences > between the models? > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> wrote: > > Think of all the EPC options (and there are 3 forms) as shells: > > > > 1 is an shell embedded as a piece of software inside EACH BTS...a total one > box solution (we can do that since we are a SDR). > > 1 is a shell that's a small (1/2U) appliance supporting up to 10k subs and 2 > gigs. These are stackable and with our NPV option is infinitely stackable. > > > > Into each shell option you plug in ONLY the functionality you need: > > > > Connecting to an external Radius? Buy that module. Don't need to? Don't get > it. > > If not above, then doing MAC level authentication instead? Buy the iHSSS > module. > > PCRF module. Doing service flows and dedicated bearers? Get that. Don't, then > don't. > > Need Layer 2, get that. Don't? Dont. > > > > These modules are in price relative to the version of EPC (baby, momma or > papa bear size). > > > > Patrick Leary > > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:23 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > > > > Never mind, I see that now. How much is the 50 user license? > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > wrote: > > Is the 50 user limit just a guideline or a software limitation? > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> wrote: > > One BTS, included embedded EPC with MAC level authentication (cheapest > option) supporting up to 50 clients. Antenna could be swapped for any other. > NOTE: this exclude any NMS pieces, but you could just connect over Telnet or > direct connect. This would be the BAREST of bones, but there it is. That's > still LTE and about 100 Mbps with killer NLOS. > > > > Includes: > > > > 735270 > > CMP.XT-BS-3.4-3.7 > > 1 > > 715773 > > LTE COMPACT SW License > > 1 > > 700258 > > BMAX-4M-GPS > > 1 > > 300736 > > ANT 3.3-3.8GHz,18 dBi, 65deg, 4ports > (RF cables NOT included) > > 1 > > 715620 > > BreezeWay-1010-50 > (per Compact HW license) > > 1 > > 715621 > > BreezeWay-1010-iHSS-50 > (50 subs. license) > > 1 > > SLA > > 1 Year SLA > > 1 > > > > > > Patrick Leary > > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:08 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > > > > No, could be much less. Give me a minute... > > > > Patrick Leary > > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:05 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > > > > Probably 20k to start. Quality over quantity. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mar 3, 2015 8:56 PM, "John Woodfield" <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz> wrote: > > Patrick, > > > > I haven't had time to read through all this emails. Can you summarize what > the lowest cost get up and running on a tower is so I can consider this > further along with cost per sub? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > John Woodfield, President > > Delmarva WiFi Inc. > > 410-870-WiFi > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Patrick Leary" <patrick.le...@telrad.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:41pm > To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > > Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a gimmick. > The hardware is what it is, and this hardware is expensive. 30dBm per port. 4 > tx/4rx. Power is expensive. The highest quality DSPs on the market. not > consumer grade stuff with the sensitivity of your in home Wi-Fi router. We > build our own phy from the ground up too, our own ATPC algorithms too. > > > > On the software, we do that though -- enabling modularity and scale as you > need to. I think I need to do a dedicated webinar to this community to walk > you guys (or those inclined) through it (any takers?). I do not think we can > be a solution that makes sense where you only have 15 clients. That's the > blunt truth. Unless you are doing 50 Mbps customers, I am not your micropop > (but I can do that in some modest scale). That said, I wonder where that 15 > number comes from? Can you please explain on what architecture that is based? > Range? Height? Etc. If it is based on a micropop and even then on what just > that pop can see, I'd say that's likely a model invented out of necessity due > to the poor performance of the system you are using. > > > > I had a guy on a call today. He zoomed me in on Google Earth to his "NLOS" > area. Farmland with wind breaks and shade trees for the homes. He is at 400' > and can't connect squat behind those breaks. In my world, that's LOS all the > way, even at 150 ft. It is total garbage that so many systems to can't deal > with that and you've all been fed that that is "normal." It is not. It is > just gear with terrible specs where the only R&D is at the software level, > and even that is scant. ....You do not have NLOS problems. You have equipment > problems. How such a product ever was allowed to go to market as a "solution" > for rural broadband is, to me, cynical and reflective of playing a market to > skim opportunistic dollars from a market segment that sometimes seems to > embrace abuse. Sort of like the poor 700 MHz owners who got sucked in to > buying 20 year old Marconi WipLL repackaged as a 700 MHz "solution" because > all there was to buy. Then vendors do that crap and THEN, THEN tell you > there's no backward compatibility when they come out with something new? > > > > WISPs. Sometimes you guys drive me nuts. You are like cheerleaders that love > to date the quarterbacks who abuse you. That is like selling a car that falls > apart once you leave residential streets. None of you should ever have > accepted these golf carts to run your fleets. Sometimes, cheap is just cheap. > > > > Boy, I'm gonna hear it from my vendor peers, but this ain't a game or just a > job for me. I damn sure hope it ain't that for you either. > > > > Patrick Leary > > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:08 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > > > > Sort of off topic, but what would be the smallest AP we could get? > > I'm thinking about using this system on a few of my towers to make sure we > never leave without a new customer, but I serve a very rural area. > > I have some towers with 15 clients. > > Is an omni + GPS sync or narrow channel out of the question? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Patrick Leary > > To: tel...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com > > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:42 PM > > Subject: [AFMUG] New feedback > > > > This is an interesting bit of commentary from one of our new customers. If he > wishes to identify himself, he will.... > > > > Patrick Leary > > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > > > From: > > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:31 AM > To: Patrick Leary; Nick Dewar > Subject: Interesting Statistic > > > > "Patrick / Nick – > > > > Our Director of Operations, which you both met in St Louis, sent out an > interesting email to our staff this evening. In February with only 20 working > days we completed 40 installs with one technician... This is only icing on > the cake, especially since we are onboarding two more techs... I ran some > additional numbers and found that out of the “Telrad” installations that we > scheduled, 100 % were successful both of these months. This is a game > changer, and it proves that we can eliminate the need to waste further time > with the dreaded site surveys. Our success is not without the help of > Telrad’s Compact solution. Truly amazing and inspiring, excited for our > aggressive expansion this spring/summer/fall. I cannot wait to have hundreds > of these damn things in the air. > > > > Excited and thankful to be a part of the LTE Beta, and am thankful for the > “Holy Grail” email that introduced us to the product...." > > > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > ************************************************************************************ >
