No. SLA, yes, but SLAs are normal to maintain support and to get software upgrades (not just bug fixes)...and in our case, soon network monitoring free for the first year from our own data center.
Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -----Original Message----- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > Quite not the case. Ever price typical LTE? And our licenses you own once > first bought, with no annual renewals. Thought there was an annual license fee to get firmware updates etc? > > > > Patrick Leary > > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 11:25 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > > > > The sauce better be really really good with all of those licenses. > Seems like u have a license for just about everything ? :) > > On Mar 3, 2015 8:20 PM, "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > wrote: > > Is there frequency re-use with a 3 BTS setup? If there is re-use, what's the > penalty? > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > 3x 65s for 360* coverage. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ________________________________ > > From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 9:07:51 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > > Is there a 90 degree sector or are you using 65 degree sectors in a 4 BTS > cluster? > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> wrote: > > Only 2 models, the 3.65 (actually 3.4-3.7) COMPACT 1000 or the 2.x > (2.3 and 2.5) COMPACT 3000. I included the 3.65 version. The 2.5 is > all the same, save for the BTS price, which is about $5k higher (but > 40 dBm per port and 43 pounds of brute power, compared to the 18 pound > COMPACT 1000) > > > > Patrick Leary > > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:36 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > > > > Which base station are you quoting, and what are the basic differences > between the models? > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> wrote: > > Think of all the EPC options (and there are 3 forms) as shells: > > > > 1 is an shell embedded as a piece of software inside EACH BTS...a total one > box solution (we can do that since we are a SDR). > > 1 is a shell that's a small (1/2U) appliance supporting up to 10k subs and 2 > gigs. These are stackable and with our NPV option is infinitely stackable. > > > > Into each shell option you plug in ONLY the functionality you need: > > > > Connecting to an external Radius? Buy that module. Don't need to? Don't get > it. > > If not above, then doing MAC level authentication instead? Buy the iHSSS > module. > > PCRF module. Doing service flows and dedicated bearers? Get that. Don't, then > don't. > > Need Layer 2, get that. Don't? Dont. > > > > These modules are in price relative to the version of EPC (baby, momma or > papa bear size). > > > > Patrick Leary > > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:23 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > > > > Never mind, I see that now. How much is the 50 user license? > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > wrote: > > Is the 50 user limit just a guideline or a software limitation? > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> wrote: > > One BTS, included embedded EPC with MAC level authentication (cheapest > option) supporting up to 50 clients. Antenna could be swapped for any other. > NOTE: this exclude any NMS pieces, but you could just connect over Telnet or > direct connect. This would be the BAREST of bones, but there it is. That's > still LTE and about 100 Mbps with killer NLOS. > > > > Includes: > > > > 735270 > > CMP.XT-BS-3.4-3.7 > > 1 > > 715773 > > LTE COMPACT SW License > > 1 > > 700258 > > BMAX-4M-GPS > > 1 > > 300736 > > ANT 3.3-3.8GHz,18 dBi, 65deg, 4ports > (RF cables NOT included) > > 1 > > 715620 > > BreezeWay-1010-50 > (per Compact HW license) > > 1 > > 715621 > > BreezeWay-1010-iHSS-50 > (50 subs. license) > > 1 > > SLA > > 1 Year SLA > > 1 > > > > > > Patrick Leary > > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:08 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > > > > No, could be much less. Give me a minute... > > > > Patrick Leary > > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:05 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > > > > Probably 20k to start. Quality over quantity. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mar 3, 2015 8:56 PM, "John Woodfield" <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz> wrote: > > Patrick, > > > > I haven't had time to read through all this emails. Can you summarize what > the lowest cost get up and running on a tower is so I can consider this > further along with cost per sub? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > John Woodfield, President > > Delmarva WiFi Inc. > > 410-870-WiFi > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Patrick Leary" <patrick.le...@telrad.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:41pm > To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > > Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a gimmick. > The hardware is what it is, and this hardware is expensive. 30dBm per port. 4 > tx/4rx. Power is expensive. The highest quality DSPs on the market. not > consumer grade stuff with the sensitivity of your in home Wi-Fi router. We > build our own phy from the ground up too, our own ATPC algorithms too. > > > > On the software, we do that though -- enabling modularity and scale as you > need to. I think I need to do a dedicated webinar to this community to walk > you guys (or those inclined) through it (any takers?). I do not think we can > be a solution that makes sense where you only have 15 clients. That's the > blunt truth. Unless you are doing 50 Mbps customers, I am not your micropop > (but I can do that in some modest scale). That said, I wonder where that 15 > number comes from? Can you please explain on what architecture that is based? > Range? Height? Etc. If it is based on a micropop and even then on what just > that pop can see, I'd say that's likely a model invented out of necessity due > to the poor performance of the system you are using. > > > > I had a guy on a call today. He zoomed me in on Google Earth to his "NLOS" > area. Farmland with wind breaks and shade trees for the homes. He is at 400' > and can't connect squat behind those breaks. In my world, that's LOS all the > way, even at 150 ft. It is total garbage that so many systems to can't deal > with that and you've all been fed that that is "normal." It is not. It is > just gear with terrible specs where the only R&D is at the software level, > and even that is scant. ....You do not have NLOS problems. You have equipment > problems. How such a product ever was allowed to go to market as a "solution" > for rural broadband is, to me, cynical and reflective of playing a market to > skim opportunistic dollars from a market segment that sometimes seems to > embrace abuse. Sort of like the poor 700 MHz owners who got sucked in to > buying 20 year old Marconi WipLL repackaged as a 700 MHz "solution" because > all there was to buy. Then vendors do that crap and THEN, THEN tell you > there's no backward compatibility when they come out with something new? > > > > WISPs. Sometimes you guys drive me nuts. You are like cheerleaders that love > to date the quarterbacks who abuse you. That is like selling a car that falls > apart once you leave residential streets. None of you should ever have > accepted these golf carts to run your fleets. Sometimes, cheap is just cheap. > > > > Boy, I'm gonna hear it from my vendor peers, but this ain't a game or just a > job for me. I damn sure hope it ain't that for you either. > > > > Patrick Leary > > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:08 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback > > > > Sort of off topic, but what would be the smallest AP we could get? > > I'm thinking about using this system on a few of my towers to make sure we > never leave without a new customer, but I serve a very rural area. > > I have some towers with 15 clients. > > Is an omni + GPS sync or narrow channel out of the question? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Patrick Leary > > To: tel...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com > > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:42 PM > > Subject: [AFMUG] New feedback > > > > This is an interesting bit of commentary from one of our new customers. If he > wishes to identify himself, he will.... > > > > Patrick Leary > > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > > > From: > > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:31 AM > To: Patrick Leary; Nick Dewar > Subject: Interesting Statistic > > > > "Patrick / Nick – > > > > Our Director of Operations, which you both met in St Louis, sent out an > interesting email to our staff this evening. In February with only 20 working > days we completed 40 installs with one technician... This is only icing on > the cake, especially since we are onboarding two more techs... I ran some > additional numbers and found that out of the “Telrad” installations that we > scheduled, 100 % were successful both of these months. This is a game > changer, and it proves that we can eliminate the need to waste further time > with the dreaded site surveys. Our success is not without the help of > Telrad’s Compact solution. Truly amazing and inspiring, excited for our > aggressive expansion this spring/summer/fall. I cannot wait to have hundreds > of these damn things in the air. > > > > Excited and thankful to be a part of the LTE Beta, and am thankful for the > “Holy Grail” email that introduced us to the product...." > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > ************** This footnote confirms that this email message has been > scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, > vandals & computer viruses. > ********************************************************************** > ************** > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > ************** This footnote confirms that this email message has been > scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, > vandals & computer viruses. > ********************************************************************** > ************** > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > 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