Wrong direction, he's trying to help you get ahead of the technology curve.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 30, 2015 8:42 PM, "Ben Moore" <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> wrote:

> Maybe I can get Mike Hammett to hand out these instead of SFP's?
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> wrote:
>
>> I like that idea!!!  Anyone want to make some up?  Maybe we will hand
>> them out at the next show ;)
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>>>   Ben, you should send out miniature voodoo dolls of yourself with
>>> miniature pitchforks, to satisfy the people with pitchfork urges.
>>>
>>> Again no stock?  Stab, stab, stab.  OK, feel better now.  Maybe tomorrow.
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 7:32 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line
>>>
>>>  As per the latest tracking they arrive tomorrow and Thursday.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> at US distributors
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Arrives where?
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>  On Mar 30, 2015 8:30 PM, "Ben Moore" <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Guys -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One shipment arrives tomorrow and one on Thursday...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well they kept saying they're better at having stock.  Several of
>>>>>>> them said March.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>  On Mar 30, 2015 8:23 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You didn't really think that number would be accurate, did you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well you can wait 2 weeks but after being told 10 days I expected
>>>>>>>>> 10 days.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Mathew Howard <
>>>>>>>>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So if we don't have them in two weeks we can get out our torches
>>>>>>>>>> and pitchforks?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No, but should be in distributors hands in ~7-10 days.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:30 PM, That One Guy <
>>>>>>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a cheap link, nanopowerbeams are integrated not
>>>>>>>>>>>> connectorized
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I didnt give much thought to the AF5x since its not in anybodys
>>>>>>>>>>>> actual hands yet is it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Mathew Howard <
>>>>>>>>>>>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess because you're too cheap to spend an extra $400 on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> link? Personally, I wouldn't... if I'm going to go cheap, might 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well go
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the way cheap and use a pair of NanoPowerBeams.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know why you'd do UBNT AC when you can do AF5x unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it needs done in the next couple weeks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Mathew Howard <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Yes, the Rockets are the only connectorized units.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Lite is cheap and can do PtP or PtMP, but does not have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airprism. The PtP and PtMP have airPrism, but there's apparently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differences in airprism between the two which means they will 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limited to ptp or ptmp, as far as I know this is going to be a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> permanent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The AC radios have faster CPUs and that sort of thing, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are going to perform better than the old junk, they also 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spiffy features like live airview. The biggest downside to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AC line at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this point is the lack of DFS and UNII-1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally wouldn't put up anything with the old M5 stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at this point unless you need to for compatibility reasons, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UBNT AC should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perform best of the three, but ePMP gives you a bit more 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flexibility at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this point. I expect AF5x to be better than any of them in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:02 PM, That One Guy <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The current iteractions of the rocket AC line, these are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only connectorized units?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the differences between lite, ptp, and ptmp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airprism only?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are some of these shipping without all there guts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am looking at replacing an old shitbucket tranzeo link,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we already have it connected to one pol of a set of radiowaves 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 foot HP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parabolics. I figure its worth checking out these AC radios, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I dont
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know whats what now, is this a permanent separation with UBNT 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of ptp and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ptmp or is this two things that are going to converge?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other than the Ac component, for a low throughput demand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link is there any major benefit of going to the AC over the M5 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in terms of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance? (future demand is a factor as well)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also considering the epmp, goods, bads uglies between the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> three products there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't see your team as part of yourself you have already 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failed as part of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the team.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> team.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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