No idea why they would want to use such low gain antennas either. Low gain 
antennas doesn't make sense. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



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From: "Chuck Macenski" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 11:22:45 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far! 


Hi, 


The sensitivity of the DFS receiver increases as the antenna gain decreases. 
The lowest gain DFS is certified for is a 23 dBi antenna gain. Setting an 
antenna gain lower than 23 dBi may result in unwanted DFS detections. 


As an observation, I will say I am a bit surprised at all of the folks talking 
about sub 23 dBi antennas. When we released the AF5/AF5U 10X full duplex 
radios, there was some discussion suggesting that was that our antenna gain was 
too low (23 dBi). Now that we have an external antenna radio, is surprises me 
how many people want to go lower when using a higher gain antenna (narrower 
beam) should physically "tune out" more external interference. 


Food for thought, 


Chuck 


OT: Just saw Ex Machina - 2 thumbs up! 


On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Jeremy < [email protected] > wrote: 



I thought I recalled Chuck mentioning something like that at AF. I guess I 
should have taken notes. 


On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Josh Luthman < [email protected] > 
wrote: 

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I've got 3 DFS set... No problems. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Apr 18, 2015 11:30 PM, "Jeremy" < [email protected] > wrote: 

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It was talked about that you absolutely need to set your antenna gain exactly 
for DFS to work. I think they also mentioned that you couldn't use DFS freqs 
for both polarities without getting detections. So I believe one freq would 
have to be non-DFS and one DFS. Did I catch that correctly? Anyone? Or was it 
just that both polarities couldn't be the same DFS freq? 




On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Josh Luthman < [email protected] > 
wrote: 

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Definitely set it in the DFS band! 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" < [email protected] > wrote: 

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Ken, 
This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm 
limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I 
don't think I'm going to mess with them. 


Josh, 
No I did not set antenna gain. 







Kurt Fankhauser 
Wavelinc Communications 
P.O. Box 126 
Bucyrus, OH 44820 
http://www.wavelinc.com 
tel. 419-562-6405 
fax. 419-617-0110 

On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds < [email protected] > wrote: 

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There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x 
firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you "cheat" 
on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. 




On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman < [email protected] > 
wrote: 
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The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it 
at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, "Mathew Howard" < [email protected] > wrote: 

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looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it 
to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power 
is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the 
interface. 



On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman < [email protected] > 
wrote: 



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Did you set 23dbi gain? 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" < [email protected] > wrote: 

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First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. 


Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I 
was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar 
detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup 
listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. 
So don't know what that was about. 






Kurt Fankhauser 
Wavelinc Communications 
P.O. Box 126 
Bucyrus, OH 44820 
http://www.wavelinc.com 
tel. 419-562-6405 
fax. 419-617-0110 


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