Ok, but Forrest is using all industrial components that are rated to -40C. Are you saying he should add a resistor just to pre-heat the SD slot?

...ok maybe you're on to something there. How about that Forrest? Would a 10cent resistor and 2 minute pre-boot warmup eliminate any issue?

On 5/18/2015 10:37 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
You could get around that by putting a heater on board to warm up the components, like the epmp has.

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    The danger you have to consider is a cold start, such as if the
    power was off for awhile.


    On 5/18/2015 10:32 PM, George Skorup wrote:
    This winter was pretty cold. For about a week straight in the
    middle of January and again in February, I had a few base units
    reporting under 0F every night. And I know the outside air temp
    was -20 to -25F. Obviously take the base unit's temp reading with
    a grain of salt because it's clearly generating some internal
    heat. I would bet inside the enclosures it was easily -15F. But I
    think your -13F is probably OK.

    On 5/18/2015 9:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
    What is the lowest temperature that each of you would normally
    expect to see in your enclosures?

    The reason I'm asking is that I'm in the process of developing
    up a few new products.

    To date, all of the packetflux products are designed with
    components rated -40 to +85C (I.E way cold to way hot).    I'd
    like to retain this rating, but I'm running into a minor snag:

    For storage, I'm planning on integrating a SD card (probably
    microSD) in a socket.   I only need a GB or so, and SD card
    memory is inexpensive at that range.

    Unfortunately, all the reasonably priced SD cards are only rated
    down to about -25C or -13F. which are about ~$3 in qty.
    "Industrial temperature range" ones which are good down to
    -40C/F are available but they add at least $30 to the cost for
    non-name brand, and even more for known brands.  When you're
    talking about a $100 end-user price, a $30 1GB SD card seems
    excessive - and probably isn't even possible if I want to meet
    the $100 price with some margin.

    So, I'm currently playing the 'what options do I have' game.   I
    hate to ship a product only rated down to -25C/-13F, but I know
    for at least a large chunk of my customer base they never see
    below this temperature, especially when you add a watt of power
    dissipation in the case with the device. Which leads me back to
    my original question: What's the lowest temperature most people
    would expect to see inside their enclosures.

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