Record companies and the RIAA are out of control. I have a small venue that does mainly live original music. Because some of the artists *might* do a cover here and there, I have to pay three different music licensing companies a blanket fee based on capacity. There are also additional per person amounts for charging a cover as well as dancing to live or recorded music (I'm not sure how that falls under their perview). They threaten with lawsuits unless you pay them - essentially extortion. Interestingly, they seem to not care nearly as much about DJs playing the artist's actual music as much as a band covering it.
On Friday, October 2, 2015, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: > How am I harmed if someone is creating and selling stinger antennas > without license. > > That's a different animal. Presumably you lose a sale for every sale of > the counterfeit unit. Unauthorized public performances might raise > awareness of an artist's work and conceivable *increase* sales. A radio > station doesn't need license to play music on the air. The artists and > recording companies recognize that being on the radio makes them more > popular and thus helps them sell tickets and/or recordings. In theory, > being on some Company's hold music should have the same effect. > > Mind you....I do my best to follow the law. I even come to a complete > stop at stop signs. I encourage customers to follow the law as well, > especially when I'm speaking as an agent of my employer. I'm just pointing > out that sometimes following the law feels silly. > > > > On 10/2/2015 12:07 PM, [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote: > > I guess they are not harmed if they don’t know they were harmed. > But that is a practical tangible physical answer. > > The theoretical answer is someone copying the intellectual property is a > “market replacement” and they have suffered financial harm, they were > damaged. > > If they did not have access to the music (like we do now) other than going > to the record store and buying the 45 RPM record they would not be able to > get it. In those days the control of the property was pretty easy. > > Moreover, MOH is an offshoot of a public performance. Mazak got into hot > water along with some of their customers in the early days of these IP wars > too. The artist deserves to be compensated for the use of their creation. > Just like a patent. > > How am I harmed if someone is creating and selling stinger antennas > without license. > > *From:* Adam Moffett <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *Sent:* Friday, October 2, 2015 9:41 AM > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New hold music for the customer facing asterisk IVR > > I had the same issue with some PBX customers. > > I found a website full of public domain music and suggested they pick from > it. One customer was a church that recorded their own pianist playing some > of those 18th century hymns that nobody owns anymore. > > At the end of the day, if the customer told me to set up their Bob Marley > CD as their hold music, then I did what they asked. You can lead a horse > to water, but you can't stop him from peeing in it.....or something like > that. > > > > ....in theory, how is an artist is damaged by MOH? > > > > On 10/2/2015 11:19 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > One of the struggles I have with hosted PBX customers is getting them to > understand that MOH needs (in most cases) to be licensed. The cost per > track or for a subscription is usually pretty small, but the idea of > shelling out any money at all seems to be a showstopper. (Of course, their > time and yours is free.) Seriously, the owner of the business is spending > time obsessing over it, but spending something like $129 for an unlimited > subscription to a catalog of on hold music is too much money to do it > legally? > > My question is, if customers are spending so much time on hold they get > sick of the stock Asterisk MOH, maybe you should do something about your > hold times? Or record your own content, like if you have radio > commercials. But really, the purpose of MOH is to be non-intrusive while > telling the caller they have not been disconnected. Not to compete with > Pandora and Spotify. > > Sorry, I realize this wasn’t really on topic. > > > *From:* <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2015 9:47 AM > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New hold music for the customer facing asterisk IVR > > Ha! > > *From:* Eric Kuhnke > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 1, 2015 6:06 PM > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *Subject:* [AFMUG] New hold music for the customer facing asterisk IVR > > (For anyone who thinks the path looks weird, this is the / of my voip > server temporarily mounted as ~/voipserver/ via sshfs) > > Image attached > > > > >
