The way I look at it, if someone makes something, whether it's music, antenna design, or whatever and says that they want to be paid if I use it, they should be paid. If it's worth using, it's worth paying for - if it's not worth paying what they want for it, then there's most likely a cheaper or free alternative.
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> wrote: > Goes to character. You and i have had off list discussions and your > advice of taking the high road has always proven best. Like my ex > business partner cheating on wife caused problems which led to me parting > ways. Wrong is wrong > On Oct 2, 2015 10:08 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I guess they are not harmed if they don’t know they were harmed. >> But that is a practical tangible physical answer. >> >> The theoretical answer is someone copying the intellectual property is a >> “market replacement” and they have suffered financial harm, they were >> damaged. >> >> If they did not have access to the music (like we do now) other than >> going to the record store and buying the 45 RPM record they would not be >> able to get it. In those days the control of the property was pretty >> easy. >> >> Moreover, MOH is an offshoot of a public performance. Mazak got into hot >> water along with some of their customers in the early days of these IP wars >> too. The artist deserves to be compensated for the use of their creation. >> Just like a patent. >> >> How am I harmed if someone is creating and selling stinger antennas >> without license. >> >> *From:* Adam Moffett <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Friday, October 2, 2015 9:41 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New hold music for the customer facing asterisk >> IVR >> >> I had the same issue with some PBX customers. >> >> I found a website full of public domain music and suggested they pick >> from it. One customer was a church that recorded their own pianist playing >> some of those 18th century hymns that nobody owns anymore. >> >> At the end of the day, if the customer told me to set up their Bob Marley >> CD as their hold music, then I did what they asked. You can lead a horse >> to water, but you can't stop him from peeing in it.....or something like >> that. >> >> >> >> ....in theory, how is an artist is damaged by MOH? >> >> >> >> On 10/2/2015 11:19 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> One of the struggles I have with hosted PBX customers is getting them to >> understand that MOH needs (in most cases) to be licensed. The cost per >> track or for a subscription is usually pretty small, but the idea of >> shelling out any money at all seems to be a showstopper. (Of course, their >> time and yours is free.) Seriously, the owner of the business is spending >> time obsessing over it, but spending something like $129 for an unlimited >> subscription to a catalog of on hold music is too much money to do it >> legally? >> >> My question is, if customers are spending so much time on hold they get >> sick of the stock Asterisk MOH, maybe you should do something about your >> hold times? Or record your own content, like if you have radio >> commercials. But really, the purpose of MOH is to be non-intrusive while >> telling the caller they have not been disconnected. Not to compete with >> Pandora and Spotify. >> >> Sorry, I realize this wasn’t really on topic. >> >> >> *From:* <[email protected]>[email protected] >> *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2015 9:47 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New hold music for the customer facing asterisk >> IVR >> >> Ha! >> >> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 1, 2015 6:06 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] New hold music for the customer facing asterisk IVR >> >> (For anyone who thinks the path looks weird, this is the / of my voip >> server temporarily mounted as ~/voipserver/ via sshfs) >> >> Image attached >> >> >> >>
