How am I harmed if someone is creating and selling stinger antennas
without license.
That's a different animal. Presumably you lose a sale for every sale of
the counterfeit unit. Unauthorized public performances might raise
awareness of an artist's work and conceivable /increase/ sales. A radio
station doesn't need license to play music on the air. The artists and
recording companies recognize that being on the radio makes them more
popular and thus helps them sell tickets and/or recordings. In theory,
being on some Company's hold music should have the same effect.
Mind you....I do my best to follow the law. I even come to a complete
stop at stop signs. I encourage customers to follow the law as well,
especially when I'm speaking as an agent of my employer. I'm just
pointing out that sometimes following the law feels silly.
On 10/2/2015 12:07 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I guess they are not harmed if they don’t know they were harmed.
But that is a practical tangible physical answer.
The theoretical answer is someone copying the intellectual property is
a “market replacement” and they have suffered financial harm, they
were damaged.
If they did not have access to the music (like we do now) other than
going to the record store and buying the 45 RPM record they would not
be able to get it. In those days the control of the property was
pretty easy.
Moreover, MOH is an offshoot of a public performance. Mazak got into
hot water along with some of their customers in the early days of
these IP wars too. The artist deserves to be compensated for the use
of their creation. Just like a patent.
How am I harmed if someone is creating and selling stinger antennas
without license.
*From:* Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Friday, October 2, 2015 9:41 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New hold music for the customer facing asterisk IVR
I had the same issue with some PBX customers.
I found a website full of public domain music and suggested they pick
from it. One customer was a church that recorded their own pianist
playing some of those 18th century hymns that nobody owns anymore.
At the end of the day, if the customer told me to set up their Bob
Marley CD as their hold music, then I did what they asked. You can
lead a horse to water, but you can't stop him from peeing in it.....or
something like that.
....in theory, how is an artist is damaged by MOH?
On 10/2/2015 11:19 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
One of the struggles I have with hosted PBX customers is getting them
to understand that MOH needs (in most cases) to be licensed. The
cost per track or for a subscription is usually pretty small, but the
idea of shelling out any money at all seems to be a showstopper. (Of
course, their time and yours is free.) Seriously, the owner of the
business is spending time obsessing over it, but spending something
like $129 for an unlimited subscription to a catalog of on hold music
is too much money to do it legally?
My question is, if customers are spending so much time on hold they
get sick of the stock Asterisk MOH, maybe you should do something
about your hold times? Or record your own content, like if you have
radio commercials. But really, the purpose of MOH is to be
non-intrusive while telling the caller they have not been
disconnected. Not to compete with Pandora and Spotify.
Sorry, I realize this wasn’t really on topic.
*From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2015 9:47 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New hold music for the customer facing
asterisk IVR
Ha!
*From:* Eric Kuhnke <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 1, 2015 6:06 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] New hold music for the customer facing asterisk IVR
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