$149

On Friday, January 1, 2016, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:

> For $200?
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *Sean
> Heskett
> *Sent:* Friday, January 1, 2016 2:24 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream
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> Calix can do all that and a whole lot more sterling
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> On Friday, January 1, 2016, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sterl...@avative.net');>> wrote:
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> I hear you.
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> My new year's goal is to find a better solution for my customers.
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> Unfortunately, at 100-1000Mbps, the pickings are still slim.
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> I would like to use MikroTik and manage the routing, but I'm finding that
> it's still best to get a really nice $100-$300+ single Wireless AC router
> and place it in the center of the house.
>
> What I would really like is a good split solution with routing in the
> head/basement, and wireless AC in bridge mode in one or two places in the
> house.
>
> But that doesn't seem to exist.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 10:30 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream
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> I'm seeing a gradual increase in customers leasing a managed Mikrotik from
> us, we charge $5/mo for a RB951G-2HnD which has been very trouble free for
> us once we tweak a couple WiFi parameters.  I think they look at the pile
> of discarded routers in their closet and decide to let someone else deal
> with it.  Most still fall into either the "I can buy one at Walmart for
> $50" camp or the "I like going to Best Buy and letting the sales guy talk
> me into the
> $250 router because I like shopping for expensive toys" camp.  And people
> still look at the humble little white Mikrotik in its plain brown box and
> think it can't possibly match their big black AC1900 router that looks like
> a weapon from Star Wars.
>
> The question I guess is whether to join the cable/telco crowd and supply
> the WiFi router and manage it for no additional revenue, and then what to
> do about the people who still want to put their own Star Wars router behind
> it.
>
> It is very disappointing that since Belkin bought Linksys they are now
> designing their own Linksys branded routers that are far worse than the
> Linksys designed E series which certainly had their own problems.  I
> replaced a customer's Belksys AC1900 router with a Mikrotik this week and
> they went from having total dead spots in parts of their house on both 2.4
> and 5 GHz to having full bars and great performance everywhere including
> the basement.  Their minds were boggled at this little white box with no
> external antennas blowing away the big black monster.
>
> Of the household brands, Netgear doesn't seem all that bad, except their
> low end WNR2000 has a really high failure rate.  I see people starting to
> trend toward less known brands like Asus and TP-Link.  But too many of my
> customers think the electronics store is "Walmart" and they seem to come
> back with these Belkin pieces of crap, I particularly hate the model that
> only has 1 LED on the whole router and you have to interpret the color and
> number of flashes, it's like figuring out what R2D2 is saying.  What's that
> R2?  No link on port 3?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Westlake
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 11:04 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream
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> I've honestly given up completely on all residential routers, they seem to
> be slowly converging on a common denominator which is that none of them
> work properly and only last a few months. I had to replace my router
> recently, and just got a Mikrotik instead. One of the guys I work with just
> replaced his old Linksys with a Mikrotik, and all of his minor problems
> went away.
>
> I used to think that it was a bad idea to provide managed routers to end
> users, but I'm slowly changing my mind after realizing how many issues are
> caused by them. There's also a lot you could do to provide better service
> to an end user, hypothetically.. let's say you put in a DD-WRT or Mikrotik
> router and setup some shaping on the client side with SFQ.
> They'd probably see a lot less issues with their Netflix buffering when
> their Xbox was downloading a game, or their VoIP cutting out when they're
> watching Daredevil in 4K.
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> On 1/1/2016 10:05 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > I had a bad dream where all my customers go to Walmart and buy Belkin
> > routers.  I tried to wake up but I wasn't dreaming.
> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
> >
>
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