Not for an 844.. No way
On Jan 1, 2016 4:24 PM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

> $149
>
> On Friday, January 1, 2016, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net>
> wrote:
>
>> For $200?
>>
>>
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 1, 2016 2:24 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream
>>
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>> Calix can do all that and a whole lot more sterling
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>> On Friday, January 1, 2016, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I hear you.
>>
>> My new year's goal is to find a better solution for my customers.
>>
>> Unfortunately, at 100-1000Mbps, the pickings are still slim.
>>
>> I would like to use MikroTik and manage the routing, but I'm finding that
>> it's still best to get a really nice $100-$300+ single Wireless AC router
>> and place it in the center of the house.
>>
>> What I would really like is a good split solution with routing in the
>> head/basement, and wireless AC in bridge mode in one or two places in the
>> house.
>>
>> But that doesn't seem to exist.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
>> Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 10:30 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream
>>
>> I'm seeing a gradual increase in customers leasing a managed Mikrotik
>> from us, we charge $5/mo for a RB951G-2HnD which has been very trouble free
>> for us once we tweak a couple WiFi parameters.  I think they look at the
>> pile of discarded routers in their closet and decide to let someone else
>> deal with it.  Most still fall into either the "I can buy one at Walmart
>> for $50" camp or the "I like going to Best Buy and letting the sales guy
>> talk me into the
>> $250 router because I like shopping for expensive toys" camp.  And people
>> still look at the humble little white Mikrotik in its plain brown box and
>> think it can't possibly match their big black AC1900 router that looks like
>> a weapon from Star Wars.
>>
>> The question I guess is whether to join the cable/telco crowd and supply
>> the WiFi router and manage it for no additional revenue, and then what to
>> do about the people who still want to put their own Star Wars router behind
>> it.
>>
>> It is very disappointing that since Belkin bought Linksys they are now
>> designing their own Linksys branded routers that are far worse than the
>> Linksys designed E series which certainly had their own problems.  I
>> replaced a customer's Belksys AC1900 router with a Mikrotik this week and
>> they went from having total dead spots in parts of their house on both 2.4
>> and 5 GHz to having full bars and great performance everywhere including
>> the basement.  Their minds were boggled at this little white box with no
>> external antennas blowing away the big black monster.
>>
>> Of the household brands, Netgear doesn't seem all that bad, except their
>> low end WNR2000 has a really high failure rate.  I see people starting to
>> trend toward less known brands like Asus and TP-Link.  But too many of my
>> customers think the electronics store is "Walmart" and they seem to come
>> back with these Belkin pieces of crap, I particularly hate the model that
>> only has 1 LED on the whole router and you have to interpret the color and
>> number of flashes, it's like figuring out what R2D2 is saying.  What's that
>> R2?  No link on port 3?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Simon Westlake
>> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 11:04 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream
>>
>> I've honestly given up completely on all residential routers, they seem
>> to be slowly converging on a common denominator which is that none of them
>> work properly and only last a few months. I had to replace my router
>> recently, and just got a Mikrotik instead. One of the guys I work with just
>> replaced his old Linksys with a Mikrotik, and all of his minor problems
>> went away.
>>
>> I used to think that it was a bad idea to provide managed routers to end
>> users, but I'm slowly changing my mind after realizing how many issues are
>> caused by them. There's also a lot you could do to provide better service
>> to an end user, hypothetically.. let's say you put in a DD-WRT or Mikrotik
>> router and setup some shaping on the client side with SFQ.
>> They'd probably see a lot less issues with their Netflix buffering when
>> their Xbox was downloading a game, or their VoIP cutting out when they're
>> watching Daredevil in 4K.
>>
>> On 1/1/2016 10:05 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> > I had a bad dream where all my customers go to Walmart and buy Belkin
>> > routers.  I tried to wake up but I wasn't dreaming.
>> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
>> >
>>
>> --
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>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
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