Yes, I agree. The big reason for looking at GPON in my case is saving fibers out to the country and not needing remote hardware in the middle. If I can use 2 strands to feed a subdivision that is 2 miles away, instead of using 24/48/or 96 strands, I can more than double/triple the fiber footprint for the same cost and not have costly switches/optics in remote enclosures. If I was only running to MDUs active would be great. The whole reason I started looking at GPON was that guys here on the lists have said the GPON hardware is no more costly than the active equipment. If that's true GPON would save a ton on the fiber plant side of things.
> That's fully retarded... The great thing about doing active-ethernet vs. > any form of GPON or EPON is the much larger set of available equipment. > Not > everything you can use for active-E as necessarily designed or marketed > for > residential services, and that's a good thing. > > GPON and EPON equipment vendors still seem like they only want to sell to > huge carriers that will commit themselves to getting married to a platform > for ten years, and buy a ton of it, not caring that it's proprietary. > Yeah.... > > Stuff like 48-port 1000BaseT blades for routers you can install in MDUs > and > 24/48-port SFP switches are used in all kinds of places. > > On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 6:26 AM, Kevin Radunz <gol...@genevaonline.com> > wrote: > >> They may be cheap but I inquired and they won't just give you pricing so >> I >> don't know. >> They have to "Customize" a complete solution for you. >> Typical big boy sales crap with an immediate NDA before they will talk >> with you. >> It completely turned me off on using Alphion. >> >> >> > Ballpark on cheap? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > Mike Hammett >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions >> > http://www.ics-il.com >> > >> > >> > >> > Midwest Internet Exchange >> > http://www.midwest-ix.com >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> > From: "Gerard Dupont III" <ger...@shelbybb.com> >> > To: af@afmug.com >> > Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:41:01 PM >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Planet MGSW-28240F >> > >> > They're cheap and have good support. No random issues like other >> vendors >> > we've tried. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather use calix or one of the >> big >> > names, but I can't make the numbers work for the small wireless fed >> > residential builds we keep doing. >> > >> > >> > No they don't have a path to NG-PON2 that I'm aware of. I'm not >> worried >> > about that right now though since we are wirelessly feeding all of the >> > neighborhoods. >> > >> > >> > On Friday, January 15, 2016, Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > What's so great about them over other vendors? Also, do they have a >> path >> > to NG-PON2? >> > On Jan 15, 2016 9:09 PM, "Gerard Dupont III" < ger...@shelbybb.com > >> > wrote: >> > >> > <blockquote> >> > We're doing Alphion now. We also have Dasan and ZTE systems in place. >> Plan >> > on migrating them to Alphion sometime this year though. >> > >> > On Friday, January 15, 2016, Sterling Jacobson < sterl...@avative.net >> > >> > wrote: >> > >> > <blockquote> >> > >> > >> > >> > What are you using for GPON now? >> > >> > Iâm starting to use some of the higher density 48 port Planet >> switches >> > in active. >> > >> > From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Gerard Dupont >> III >> > Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 7:55 PM >> > To: af@afmug.com >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Planet MGSW-28240F >> > >> > We have a few of those in place for a couple years now in non climate >> > controlled cabinets. This will be the third winter. We're just using >> cheap >> > chinese bidi optics. Some from fiberstore. Customer sides are mostly >> > MikroTik 2011 or rb260gs. >> > >> > >> > >> > Had some minor issues early on but they were fixed in later l >> firmware. >> > >> > >> > >> > I can't remember the last time I had to touch them. They've been >> solid. >> > >> > >> > >> > We've moved to gpon for any new builds or I'd probably still be >> installing >> > them. >> > >> > >> > >> > Gerard >> > >> > On Friday, January 15, 2016, George Skorup < geo...@cbcast.com > >> wrote: >> > <blockquote> >> > >> > Derp, I forgot. What do you have on the other end of the ports? >> > Routerboards with bidi SFPs? We're not sure what we're going to do on >> the >> > CPE end yet. It's a multi party venture and those guys haven't made up >> > their minds yet, other than each premise will have a pair and they >> want >> > active ethernet. I mentioned GPON and was told no. So then I said why >> not >> > do bidi and basically heard crickets. So whatever, I'm just in charge >> of >> > designing the core network inside their box of requirements. >> > >> > On 1/15/2016 8:12 PM, George Skorup wrote: >> > <blockquote> >> > >> > Excellent. Thanks. >> > >> > On 1/15/2016 8:05 PM, Craig Baird wrote: >> > <blockquote> >> > >> > We have this exact switch in service right now with Fiberstore BiDis. >> It's >> > never given us any trouble. >> > >> > Craig >> > >> > >> > Quoting George Skorup < geo...@cbcast.com >: >> > <blockquote> >> > >> > I'm working on a fiber project and was wondering if anyone else has >> used >> > this Planet switch? >> > http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product.php?id=48441 >> > >> > Is Planet picky about SFP modules? I was planing on ordering some >> cheap >> > single mode modules from Fiber Store to use with this and get the >> project >> > rolling. Such as: >> > >> http://www.fs.com/1-25-gbps-gige-1000base-lx-lh-1310nm-20km-dom-industrial-temp-lc-smf-sfp-transceiver-p-37258.html >> > >> > Already ordered the switch, so we'll see what happens. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > </blockquote> >> > >> > >> > </blockquote> >> > >> > >> > </blockquote> >> > >> > </blockquote> >> > >> > </blockquote> >> > >> > </blockquote> >> > >> > >> >> >> >
